by flower 36 Replies latest jw friends
Orangefatcat,
I meant to tell you that Joel and I were both impressed at your story of leaving the Jdubs. You really are a sweet, friendly and genuinely good person that has gone through so much, but come out far better than any witness I ever knew. It was a pleasure meeting you and talking to you. You're a lot of fun, glad we sat by each other at dinner in Toronto.
Anne
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I posted four of the poems I wrote during the final year as a dub under arts n lit. Giva look see if you like that stuff.
Mimilly
Thankyou for posting this Flower, I've been meaning for a while to check out quotes such as these, even yesterday, the thought came to mind, nice one.
I first requested a psychologist at age 14, at this time i was having a great deal of traumatic experiences, and would often smash my head against the wall to try to block out the pain going on inside my head.
Obviously, it was refused my request. That Awake article sums it up, I must show that one to my parents, who have always denied that this was ever advocated.
Peace
Mark
Edited for spelling error
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and everybody,
I was so sad after I read this post. I'm so sorry for what you went through.
raven101
I can have real empathy on this subject. In my research on WTS comments on psychiatrists and psychologists, I found this amazing comment:May 15, 1963 Watchtower pages 319-20
Questions from Readers
Would it be necessary for a psychiatrist to change his profession before he would be eligible for baptism and recognition as one of Jehovah’s witnesses?—R. W., United States.No, it does not seem that this would be necessary. The fact that the Watch Tower publications have discouraged dedicated Christians consulting worldly psychiatrists except in extreme cases does not mean that a psychiatrist cannot and does not help those who consult him. Whether a psychiatrist continued to practice his profession upon dedication or not would be entirely his decision to make. It is possible that he could be a far better psychiatrist by reason of his now understanding and appreciating Bible principles, and especially because of his faith in Jehovah God and his dedication to do God’s will...
However, a dedicated Christian psychiatrist would need to be very careful not to unduly influence other Christians so that they would come to him for worldly wisdom instead of going to their overseers for heavenly wisdom. In fact, he would have to lean over backwards, as it were, so as not to imply that his psychiatry is a higher wisdom than that found in the Bible. The Bible contains far better advice for making over our personalities than does either psychiatry or psychoanalysis. And only its wisdom leads to everlasting life.—1 Cor. 13:1-13; Gal. 5:19-23; Col. 3:1-25.[/b]
A different voice
Yes I went to the elders and they did help me out
They told me not to go to any counselors. They told me if I did go to counselors not to tell them I was a JW. They told me to pray more and go to all meetings and more service. They told me to be in submission to my husband and the congregation.
I was suicidal, severely depressed, abused, alone and overwhelmed.
Yup they really did help me... out the door. Thank you elders. Then I really got the help I needed to get better.
Sadly there are so many (like many of you here - (((HUGS))) to all of you) who suffer like I did for years believing the elders were spirit-anointed and their counsel from God. "Let My people go!" Think the borg oughtta listen
Aspire to inspire before you expire
Flower,
Here are many good examples of Jehovah's "spirit-directing" his earthly organization in health matters:
http://www.premier1.net/~raines/quackery.html
Farkel
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Your right Lee, they helped a lot of us 'out'.
Blondie, great find. Love the part about the bible containing far better advice about making over out personalities than psychiatry does. Makes me want to vomit.
Farkel, thanks for the link.. Unbeleivable stuff.
flower
((((((all of you )))))I read your stories & my heart aches. After reading "Jehovahs Witness & Mental Illness" by Jerry Bergman ( an ex)
I relized I wasnt as bad off ..I had thought of suicide so often when they "ousted" me.
After listening to the anguish that all of us went through after finding they were not the truth- I have to wonder if any of those at Bethel ( top guys) ever really wonder if they are evil.
I cannot for the life of me believe they would stay there willingly- after hearing of the very sad things that go one with those they dispose of.When I asked " what would happen if I kill myself" when they said they were chucking me out after over 20 yrs faithful service)The Bro?? shrugged his shoulders. I was devastated. I loved them all so much...
