Evolution is just a theory (page 2)

Cold Steel

Put it this way cold steel.... if you think that photo is literal.... it isn't..... it is neither science or fact. It is a bing search result! That picture is not what any scientist from Darwin on has EVER said, funny how christians believe it and have seen that phoyo everywhere. Why are you so lazy about checking facts? Do you not want to know the answers? I don't comprehend someone who goesno further than typing into a search engine and assuming that is enough....

It's just not something I'm interested in. If you say the picture isn't representative of evolution, I have no reason not to believe you. And I confess I'm ignorant on the subject, which is why I don't really have an opinion on it. But getting back to the picture, I've seen it for years in various forms. Many think that the first humans lived in caves and dropped out of trees. Some don't. I imagine it's a debated topic even among anthropologists. Having been told that picture is not representative of evolution, I won't use it again.

Thanks for the input!

DJS

CS,

I have cited the study referenced by Snare, and others like it, before on this forum. The nonsense you spewed is absent factual basis. Study after study reveals the more religious a state, country or region, the more dysfunctional it is, and the less religious the more functional. This data is readily available to you, but you do what nearly all the theists do on this site. You run your mouth, making definitive statements, about things which you know little or nothing. Your mindset is what traps you in your theistic beliefs; you 'feel' or 'believe' something, perhaps even strongly, without any true knowledge or evidence to support. That's fine, but I do wish you would learn some self control and stay away from the keyboard. But if you really want to play this game, I have a lot of data ready and available. Not that it would matter. Other than your 'feelings' and 'belliefs', you got nuthin".

Cold Steel

Cold steel- you, mate, are stuck on thinking everything that tries to gain converts is a cult...mormons even say that christianity was and is a cult right?

Of course early Christianity was a cult, just as early Mormonism was a cult. Pliny used the word "cult" to describe Christians as did most of the Roman Empire. A cult is a religion that is based on another religion and adds to it. Often it centers around one leader and followers who believe in that leader. Jesus fits such a leader as does Muhammad, Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White. In the first century, there was a vicious strain of Judaism called the Zealots, which caused many innocent Jews to be crucified. Then there were the Essenes, gnostic Christians and so forth.

[But] imagine if people could hold their ideas, and i stress IDEAS, without being told they are wrong...and if the are wrong, having concrete proof to show it but without discrimination. Or better yet, imagine a place where things are NOT viewed in religous biases or preconceived notions....for me, call it atheism, but it is the natural world that is testable and observable that i find fascinating. Hide behind your walls of religion while pretending to accept all people but for le agnostics and atheists are the most open minded individuals ive met....

I don't see myself as hiding behind religion. I'm content to abiden in a revelation we believe was given to Joseph Smith: "Yea, verily I say unto you, in that day when the Lord shall come, he shall reveal all things—things which have passed, and hidden things which no man knew, things of the earth, by which it was made, and the purpose and the end thereof—things most precious, things that are above, and things that are beneath, things that are in the earth, and upon the earth, and in heaven." I agree it would be nice if people could hold their beliefs without being attacked, but this world is quite a ways from being that.

[It's] easy to say that your religion doesnt negate evolution...but ask yourself mate, and really read each line and verse of your bible....Does science and the universe and evolution negate Religion or GOD....trust me there are MANY holes!

Well, I second that there are holes. And Mormons don't believe the Bible is either complete or inerrent (and we get heat about that from other Christians). There are numerous errors in the Bible: historical problems, prophetic problems, contradictions, scientific problems and superstition. Even Paul states many things that are simply his own opinions. So yes, there are holes. Anything produced by and conveyed by man is bound to have faults.

Viviane

If image searches are how we are determining what's real, these both came up in an image search for "Jesus", so they must be true!

DJS

Viviane,

I noticed CS did not directly respond to the data referenced by Snare or my comments about it. I suppose if you put your head deep enough in the sand (or your own ass), such things as facts will magically go away. He has been on this site long enough, and has likely read and participated in these dicussions numerous times, where he knows that the definifinivie statements he makes are typically not supported by the facts. He has to know. The only thing I can come up with as to why he and others like him continue to spew nonsense is because: a. facts are scary and best avoided; b. he and others like him think that they can slip in their bits of nonsense and all the atheists wil be on vacation; or c. a combination of the above.

We continue to have the same mindless dicussions with theists; and they don't ever seem to get it. Just once I would like to see one of them say: "Oh, I see Snare, so being decent, kind, honest and ethical, based on the very good data you have presented, hasn't a rip to do with religion." You have enlightened me. Thank you so very much."

cofty

I'm content to abiden in a revelation we believe was given to Joseph Smith - Cold Steel

cofty

it would be nice if people could hold their beliefs without being attacked - Cold Steel

People who believe silly things should not be attacked. When they advocate their superstitions in public, those beliefs sould be exposed mercilessly.

DJS

It would be nice if people who make definitive statements about things which they know little or nothing and especially after their nonsense has been proven erroneous could exercise some restraint. Avoid the keyboard. You can do it. Or acknowledge you were wrong (exercise some of the Xtian humility). Both would be preferable. Now stick your head firmly back in the sand. Or . . .

DJS

And CS, the gaul, hypocrisy and narcissim you show is off the charts. We attack you? I think we attacked your ridiculous premise. So it's OK for you to paint with a broad brush, condeming atheists as useless and immoral and providing nothing of value to society, but THAT is acceptable????? What kind of delusional narcissist are you, anyway? I suggest a new strategy, R2: stay within theist only posts and avoid others. Stay away from the keyboard; you can do it. I know you can.

cofty

This attack for example...

"atheists on this site tend to be bitter, self-serving, arrogant know-it-alls" - Cold steel

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