Anyone Here Used to Fear Persecution? (page 4)

OUTLAW

Anyone Here Used to Fear Persecution?

...................................................I was Repeatedly Told as a JW Child..

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............We Would Be Rounded Up..And..............................Day to Day Life in The WBT$ is ..

.............Put In Concentration Camps.....................................Every JW Childs Nightmare..

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...................................................................................................................................................... ...OUTLAW

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having lived at the fringes of the events of the worlds darkest hours and

having been chased by threatening men with Crowbars out of teriitories, having spent time in wt related police custody,

persecution itself did not feel fear-inspiring at the time, but I still build secret compartments into the houses, to hide.

Scenes from the Ukraine show what mob-action can be like.

fearfull things can happen in the future, (not persecution) flee and protect.

At first I was very zealous, I didn't fear Armageddon, I was ready to die for Jehovah. Gradually I started realizing that Armageddon wasn't necessarily going to happen in my lifetime, I figured if it did happen I was going to be vulture food, but I wasn't afraid. I don't know why death does not scare me, but it doesn't. Eventually it became hard to think Armageddon was going to come at all.

My daughter, on the other hand, was very worried about being in a concentration camp, she was about six when they had the yearbook about the JWs in Germany during WW2. Eventually that obsession passed, then she worried about other things, growing older and having to pay taxes, etc. She spent one year obsessed with being an amputee.

LoisLane looking for Superman

A dear friend, XXX, told me at a dinner at her house Oct 1971, that she doesn't know how she would deal with persecution if "they" used her children against her.

At the time her son was 4.

When he graduated high school, he did not go to the KHall anymore.

XXX was a nervous wreck. She worried all the time.

XXX and ZZZZZZ let their son live in the basement of their home, so, as XXX said, at least she knows, he is okay.

He, the cherished only son, moved away, and in a few years from the money he had worked and saved, he bought a Pool Hall, and married a woman not of the "faith".

Dad got leukemia, but the doctor had told him, he would probably die of something else.

XXX is a worried wreck.

XXX gets cancer, it takes a few years and several loppings off, and still concerned about persecution and her only son, she died.

A few years go by, ZZZZZZ remarries but it is all too much for him.

He aged greatly, and then he died.

Son. Not worried a bit. He hasn't been to the KHall for almost 30 years.

He has a wife, a family and a prospering business.

Rank and File Publisher's flourishing - 0% - (with exceptions)

Watch Tower still flaunting perscusion ? 100%

Watch Tower flourishing ? 100%

LoisLane

villagegirl

Great Teacher - Can't help it - laughing so hard I spilled my coffee,

Fear of hairy legs ??? Really ? That was your idea of persecution ?

been to any third world countries lately ?

cantleave

As a kid I was told to expect persecution. I did, but only because I was considered batshit crazy because of the religious cult I was being brought up in.

Da.Furious

I used to have from people outside the organisation. But not anymore. Since I had to serve 18 months in prison for refusing to serve in the military, after that what worse can happen - this time killed me emotionally.

As for being afraid someone shouting at me in the ministry, I barely go and when I have to, I barely speak and go with friends whom don’t bother talking at doors - just give magazines and get out!

My only fear now is using my family against me - persecution within the organisation!

Heartofaboy

I worried so much as a kid thinking about having my nails pulled out, limbs being slowly cut off .......... I knew already I didn't have the faith needed for Jehovah to help me.........years & years of my childhood troubled by this type of mental anguish.

As time went by I started to wonder that if Big J was so closely monitoring the brutal savagery being done to me in order to see when I had reach my breaking point then he was kinda on the side of the torturers & was using excrutiating pain & mutilations for his own ends.............& that if I had an inkling of not believing he was going to step in then he would just let them have a free hand to do their worst to me.

No child should have to deal with this.

God is weird.

Rattigan350

@Band of the Run - I'd take an AK47 and blow everyone away.

That's what I didn't like about the stories in Nazi Germany. They say they were peaceful and didn't hurt the guards. I'm not impressed. I'd be impressed if they blew away Nazis. The Swaztika is good for target practice.

Band on the Run

Rattigan,

I made many friends with Jewish people over a long period of time. When I was in college, the poli sci dept made us see a film rarely shown. The Nazis were so proud of the concentration camps they took very professional films. The prof. told us not to eat and the md for the college had therapists to counsel upset students. It was college so we laughed to hide our angst. I don't think people want me to post what I saw. Gross. One fact always shook me. There were so many Jews being herded into trains and the camps. If they all fought back at one time, only a few would die. The Nazis could not prevail. Jews did this in the Warsaw ghetto and a few other places.

There are certain boundaries to interfaith life in NY. Finally, I asked Jewish students why Jews did not fight back more effectively. They explained that dehumanization happened. The Nazis started very slowly with minimal interference. By the time of the death camps, they were broken. This is why it is so important to resist the WT with all your might. I saw mental health aides leading their patients into gas chambers. They believed they were doing a good thing.

The South did not have much infrastructure. Black communities were isolated. My gf had a cross burned on her lawn b/c of desegregation efforts. The only blacks willing to walk into the school had Northern ties. No one saw the actual ignition. Everyone said, though, for the cross to be moved, the local police were involved. Local police were frequently part of the lynching mobs. They can make life dreadful for you. When the KKK comes calling, you can't call 911. If you used your weapon, school children might be targeted. The South presented many structural problems. Working with minority groups today, I find it a miracle what happened in the South. The black church was responsible for the success. Adults would lose their jobs if they went to prison or jail. They turned to students to do the long time. MLK did short time so he could fly around and lecture people.

De facto segregation still exists despite all the civil rights laws. Many blacks say they preferred Jim Crow b/c it was not hidden. Friends of mine grew up in Jim Crow South.