Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 04-13-2014 WT Study (HAIL JC)

by blondie 23 Replies latest jw friends

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  leaving_quietly

  @Blondie, yeah, I totally agree with you about what WTS says. I was just pointing out that Rev 6 is in dispute (and by that, I mean other people who do not belong to WTS). Some believe it is Jesus, Some believe it is the antichrist. Some believe something else altogether. But, by and large, people see the white horse at Rev 19 as being Jesus because of those names. That one is not in dispute all that much. I spent about a half-hour yesterday looking for someone who didn't think it was Jesus, and I couldn't find any.

  That said, this is clearly the modus operandus of WTS. Take a single word and make its application the same all over the place. Like the word "times" of Daniel 4, Luke 21:24 and Rev 11 and 12. "Yup, must be the referring to the same thing!!!!" <face palm>

  "Let's see, Revelation 6, white horse. Aha a color! Where else do we see white? Ah, yes. White robes! Must represent cleanness and righteousness. Hmm. Where else? Ah, yes, Revelation 19. Ooooh, looky! Another white horse? Oh, and names! Who else is called by these names? Well, duh, Jesus is! So, any white horse found in the bible MUST represent Jesus! We so smart!!! Writing department, go to print with this 'new light'!"
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  SAHS

  In my comment during paragraph 12 at that April 13 th WT study, which talks about ‘the King riding in the cause of humility,’ I mentioned John 5:19 where Jesus said, “The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.” I also read Hebrews 9:1, 10 (not mentioned in the WT study), which says: “. . . the former covenant used to have legal requirements for sacred service and its holy place . . . They were legal requirements concerning the body and were imposed until the appointed time to set things straight.” (I actually came across these scriptures by accident – it was a stroke of luck just at the right time.) I then said that when Jesus came, he fulfilled the essence of the old Law Covenant, which was love and mercy. I was hoping that everyone there would make some kind of mental connection between that and the arbitrary “legal requirements” and policies still being imposed by the GB, such as their policies regarding blood, shunning, holiday celebrations, etc. I’m not sure just how much of that connection was made by people in the audience, but maybe there was even on some minute subconscious level.

  I always try to drop some little tidbit like that to make people think. (I guess I’m the subliminal black sheep of the congregation!)
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  sd-7

  This article seems to remind me an awful lot of the outlandish sort of interpretations found in 'The Finished Mystery'. Taking a simple Psalm and attributing all these meanings that are nowhere implied in this chapter is par for the course for the WT.

  There's an interesting thinly veiled threat in this article. It sounds like they're implying that yeah, we, the authors of this article, will kill you if you do not obey us, and Jesus is going to give us the authority to do so. It says it right here in the Bible. You just wait till we get up to heaven. You'll see.

  The Warrior-King does not wage a war of conquest in order to occupy territories and subjugate peoples. He wages a righteous war with noble objectives. He rides “in the cause of truth and humility and righteousness.”

  Actually...he...kinda does wage a war of conquest in order to occupy territories and subjugate peoples. Did you...miss your own article?

  That was only the beginning of the King’s victorious ride. He must yet “complete his conquest.”

  "Conquest." That's what it says, paragraph 10, right? So it is a war of conquest. Did they have two different people writing this article?

  The carnage will be earth wide. Jeremiah’s prophecy foretells: “Those slain by Jehovah in that day will be from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth.”

  Yeah, so the people will be pretty darn subjugated, especially with most of them dead. So yeah, it's a war of conquest to permanently occupy the Earth and subjugate its people eternally to his dad's rulership. So...if you're trying to contrast a war of conquest, occupation of territory, and subjugation of people with a righteous war that has noble objectives, you just totally failed, because...it's pretty clear that what you're saying is that a war of conquest, occupation and subjugation is the same thing as a righteous war with noble objectives.

  So that's kind of interesting, actually. Unusual, but interesting.

  --sd-7
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  sarahsmile

  " Moreover, Jesus’ throne will last “forever and ever.” Are you not proud to be serving Jehovah under such a mighty, God-appointed King"

  Recently did WT state that Jesus kingship will not be in the new heavens and earth! Not his throne will last forever!

  Sounds like they keep flip flopping!

  What! mighty,God-appointed King! that is confusing! I bet many said what!