Wt 6/15 1962 p.380-383
"Likewise it is possible to spend valuable time speculating on matters concerning the future. One might ask, In what year will Armageddon begin?...Jehovah has not provided answers at this time. Do you think it wise for Christians to take time from more profitable Bible study to speculate on the answers? Consider the dangers...involves more than saving time. It may save your life...Personal theories can cause division of thought..By setting up hypothetical situations and then speculating..are we not in fact adding to Jehovahs words?..We cannot worship Jehovah in spirit and in truth if our worship is based on speculation. Truth and theory are not synonymous. "
Unbelievable Watchtower quote from 1962!!.. ''Don't waste time speculating on what year Armageddon will come'' (check it on cd-rom if you like)
by defender of truth 38 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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defender of truth
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LisaRose
Truth and theory are not synonymous.
Too bad they didn't take their own advice.
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suavojr
These people have so many different ghost writers that no one can keep up with the plethora of contradictions.
They do the same thing the bible writers did. Write a mountain of errors and contradictions, and then claim their message is of great urgency.
Funny how believers can say the bible is one message, yeah right!?
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DATA-DOG
DOT, someone told me you go to other sites and support the WT, and then come here. They were hesitant to ask you. I'm not. What say you? You seem like you are learning TTATT to me. I was all over the place for a couple of years. I even warned others to be careful of JWN because ther were "real apostates" here! LOL!!!
DD
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trujw
for Odens beard why do you try ask brainwashed jws questions. I waste thousands of hours reading there bull crap. Look if they post on here. And don't figure it out they never will. They have a 100 percent failure rate. It doesn't matter what you say data dog they want to believe.
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defender of truth
Data-dog, they are lying, I am extremely insulted. Why would I do that? Check my post record if you like, but considering the whack-a-doodle pm you sent me about believing in Jesus and being moved by the holy spirit when you read the Bible, you should be the last person accusing anyone of pretending to be something else.. Why not ask me privately? I'm clearly going to subjected to constant suspicion here.. Goodbye.
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Heaven
"Stay Alive 'til Seventy-Five!" - Charles Sunutko, 1967 District Convention, Wisconsin
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DATA-DOG
I wasn't accusing you of anything, just asking? "GOD" knows my Cog-diss has been crazy at times. I am the last person to judge anyone. I went from accepting JW "truth" to believing just the Bible, to Pterism, to NOTHING, to near Atheism. Now I am a ?????????. So I don't judge anyone.
As far a "wack-a-doodle pm" is concerned, [ LOL!!!] I have sent and read plenty of those. It's part of the process. If you think that is the craziest thing I have ever written or believed, then you are in for a shock! Hey, don't tell anyone...but I used to believe that GOD would kill billions of people and start over with JWs as the new gene-pool of humanity! I know?? Crazy right?!? Why am I whispering???
Don't be so defensive, it makes you look guilty. Instead of being mad at me, you should defend yourself. I am not the one making accusations.
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DATA-DOG
DOT said , " Why not ask me privately? I'm clearly going to subjected to constant suspicion here.. Goodbye."
Ok. I'll give you that one. Sorry, I had some drinks and was a little silly last night. I apologize. Maybe I am a little dense, but I have not noticed anyone treating you suspiciously anymore. Am I missing something???
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Speculating about dates is not really speculating...if god tells you the dates. The great thing is, when things go south, WT can blame god for the failure:
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1922 "We have no doubt whatever in regard to the chronology relating to the dates of 1874, 1914, 1918, and 1925. It was on this line of reckoning that the dates 1874, 1914, and 1918 were located; and the Lord has placed the stamp of his seal upon 1914 and 1918 beyond any possibility of erasure. What further evidence do we need? Using this same measuring line.... it is an easy matter to locate 1925, probably in the fall, for the beginning of the antitypical jubilee. There can be no more question about 1925 than there was about 1914." (Watchtower, p. 150, May 15, 1922)
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"This chronology is not of man but of God . . . of divine origin . . . absolutely and unqualifiedly correct." --Watchtower 7/15/1922, p.217
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"We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." (Watchtower July 15, 1894, p 266; p 1677 reprints)
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jv chap. 10 p. 136 Growing in Accurate Knowledge of the Truth ***
Did the Lord tell us that we would be taken [to heaven] there? No. What did He say? His Word and the fulfil[l]ments of prophecy seemed to point unmistakably that this date marked the end of the Gentile Times. We inferredfrom this that the Church’s ‘change’ would take place on or before that date. But God did not tell us that it would be so. He permitted us to draw that inference; and we believe that it has proven to be a necessary test upon God’s dear saints everywhere."
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In the November 15, 1955
Watchtower President Knorr went so far as to say that God was the One who was responsible for the preaching of Rutherford’s message ! Under the heading, "Jehovah Is In His Holy Temple" it says …
Stirring up increasing interest in them, Jehovah caused to be preached from 1918 the startling public message, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die."