The Governing Body told two Elders to call !!!! (page 3)

Viviane

Is it just the inactive or also the DFed?

cantleave

They are told to call on DF'd once a year, unless they were DF'd for apostasy (Hmmmm I wonder why that is?)

KateWild

They are told to call on DF'd once a year-cantleave

Thats interesting, I bet all the overworked elders don't do as they are told and call on all the Df'd in the territory once a year. cantleave do tell, how do they know who all the Df'd ones are anyway? Did you do as you were told when you were an elder?

Kate xx

blondie

They call on the df'd ones whose cards are still in their records (these are not supposed to be thrown away)...can't call on df'd who move into the area though but jws are told to inform the elders when they find a df'd person in the territory not originally from the congregation.

As to the inactive, the WTS says the elders should be making shepherding calls on them on a regular basis, more than once a year in fact. Of course, most don't.

KateWild

As to the inactive, the WTS says the elders should be making shepherding calls on them on a regular basis, more than once a year in fact. Of course, most don't.-blondie

A bit like shepherding visits, you only get the regularly if there is an issue, you just get ignored if it's just encouragement they're supposed to impart.

Kate xx

konceptual99

If they do I will lie and keep them at the door and tell them I will be coming back "soon".

It's no lie, it's just like Armageddon is coming soon!

bigmac

elders are welcome to call on me anytime. they never have. i'm very happy to be atheist--not in the least interested in any religion. but i would like the chance to discuss the shunning policy.

sparky1

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!! I got my visit on Sunday April 6th the week before the Memorial. If my visit wasn't so FUNNY it would be SAD. Come to think of it, if it wasn't so SAD it would be FUNNY. Let me set the stage for this comedic/dramatic/farce. First you have Elder #1. He is very sincere, kind and loving; an all around nice guy that wouldn't hurt a fly. His wife left him for a woman (non-witness) and is now a commited Lesbian. Three of his four children want nothing do do with the Witnesses but one son is a Ministerial Servant. Elder #1 is not very worldy wise but sometimes he can make a sharp observation. Elder #2 is an ex-Hippie. Graduate of Wentworth Institute in Massachusetts. Not very bright and lazy to the extreme. He forgets that years ago when I was still active he came to me for marital advice. It seems that his wife had little interest in sex and he was frustrated to the MAX. All three of his sons are active witnesses and his wife is a Pioneer. They put on a good front as a model Witness Family. He is known in the community for his 'sharp business practices' and is always late in paying his bills. Actor #3 is me. Ex-pioneer, ex-Bethelite, ex-Ministerial Servant and brother that turns down the position of Secretary to the Body of Elders because I didn't want to be appointed an Elder. Here is the scenario as it unfolded albeit in condensed form:

Elder #1: Hello Sparky. The Governing Body through the Circuit Overseer has instructed the local elders to call on inactive ones and convey the deep love and concern that the Governing Body has for all Of Jehovahs Sheep, especially those that have slowed down in the work over time.

Sparky: Shakes Elder #1 and #2 hands. Thank you for taking time to come and see me. I am in the middle of my lunch as you can see but I appreciate you conveying this to me. Won't you please sit down.

Small talk and chit chat ensues for a few moments and then Elder #1 must proceed with his canned speech.

Elder#1: I would like to read to you Hebrews 6:10. (Everyone here is familiar with this text so I won't quote it.)

Sparky: Laughing.............Ha ha ha ha you won't believe this Elder #1 but that scripture was used in my Personal Review after I finished Bethel Entrants school.

Both Elders brighten up! Oh yes.....we remember that you loyally served Jehovah in Bethel. You must have many experiances that you could share with us. ( You are damn right I could but I doubt you could stomach what I had to say!)

Elder#1: You are not alone in this congregation. We have a total of 14 in our hall that are inactive. The Circuit Overseer told us that we are within the national average. (He said this like he was proud that at least we were not in worse shape that other halls.)

Sparky: (With a straight face) That number seems a little low to me. After all there are somewhere around 8 million active witnesses worldwide and more than double that number attend the Memorial each year. As you know from looking around our hall at Memorial time there are only a few faces that are newly interested ones and the rest are unbelieving family members, hangers on and those who are no longer active. I am sure that it is the same in other halls.

Elder #1 and #2 in unison and looking at each other: Hmmm.....maybe.

Elder#2: You know Sparky the times are very urgent. Armageddon is almost upon us.

Sparky: Yes Elder #2 I am sure something is up. You know the first time I laid eyes on you almost 40 years ago I was giving the Instruction Talk at the Thursday night meeting. If I recall correctly my talk was on the urgency of the times.

Elder #2: You have a good memory Sparky. I don't remember that specific talk but I do recall that you had many parts on the Service Meeting and the Theocratic School. We don't speculate on dates anymore but we do know that Armageddon is almost upon us.(He really said this!)

Sparky: Yes Elder #2 that is true. Witnesses don't speculate about dates anymore. How is you Volvo wagon working out. Any trouble with it. My Volvo sedan has electrical trouble in heavy rain.

Elder #2: Ha ha ha. (chuckles to himself)No I don't have any trouble with the car at all. It is my Armageddon car!(He really said this too!)

Sparky: You know Elder #2 I remember when you had an old Ford Falcon and you told me that it was your Armageddon car. That was almost 40 years ago too.

Elder #2: Yes Sparky.......I have had 5 Armageddon cars but this is my last one!

Elder #1: Well Elder #2 I think we should go now. Sparky needs to finish his Lunch and it is rude for us to interfere with his Luchtime. We hope to see you at the Memorial and if there is anything we can do to help restore you to you former activity we are here to help.

For me it was a half hour of cheap entertainment. I hope any of you posting here that get a Shepherding Call this year can have as much of a laugh as I did.

Phizzy

They really are a bit thick some of them aren't they ? Bill told me that Elder No 1 did most of the talking, he apparently was the senior of the two being in his early seventies, the younger one was 20 years or so his junior, but apparently was itching to say something.

After Bill had explained thoroughly about the Bible having no meaning for him, he did not trust it, this younger one came out with a scripted remark, and then insisted on reading a Scripture !! ?

What a TWAT. He had simply not listened.

Bill said it all felt so false and forced, they were simply there because they had been told to do it, so much for " loving Shepherds".

The Governing Body told two Elders to call !!!!

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