cofty,
Is Sacandanavia the area around Sacramento that has a large Scandinavian population?
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the green mile?
by sparrowdown 57 Replies latest jw friends
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tornapart
I think in certain cases capital punishment should be done. Here in the UK we don't have it anymore. There are some cases where the crime is so horrible that only a death sentence will help the victim's family feel that justice has been done.
I'm talking about crimes like a young man being hacked to death on the street in broad daylight. Child killers like the Moors murderers. Serial rapists/killers like Fred and Rosemary West. Anyone who abuses and kills their children they should be protecting. These are crimes where the killer shows no remorse and would be a danger if ever let loose again.
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James Brown
Yes, I believe in capital punishment. I was a detention officer and would have inmates in my jail who shot people
for the fun of it.
There are lots of animals out there.
At the same time, I dont think the police always get the right guy and a good number of cops
are criminals.
A lot of times people who they absolutely know killed somebody get away with it.
And people fry based on circumstantial evidence.
If you got a rap sheet a mile long and they decide to pin something on you, you are going to fry.
Maybe that is karma.
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cofty
There are some cases where the crime is so horrible that only a death sentence will help the victim's family feel that justice has been done.
Assuaging the anguish of the family of victims is not the purpose of the justice system.
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LisaRose
I used to be for it, but I have changed my mind.
Putting someone to death does nothing to prevent crime, nor does it do anything for society. It costs more to put someone to death than to keep them in prison. You could argue that justice is only served in some cases if there is a death penalty, but life in prison is not really easy on the criminal, in some cases it could be harder. Then you have the issue of innocent people being wrongly imprisoned, which is fairly common, according to some reports. Recent events also might indicate that there really is no humane way to put people to death. I think we, as a society, need to move away from the "eye for an eye" mentality from the bible, and do what makes sense and benefits society the most.
Of course you could get really radical and try to address the societal problems that tend to breed crime.
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Mikado
it's a funny thing, the death penalty is such an American thing.
I can't see how people can support it for a variety of reasons...
the economic argument is false, it's much cheaper to keep someone alive for ever in gaol than to execute them, way cheaper.
Nonone who does such awful thing can be anything other than ill, I'm not saying they are insane, but there is something fundamentally wrong with them.
It such an easy thing to confuse justice for revenge, and in a civilized country those two things are totally different.
The innocence project is a frightening example of the real dangers of people being wrongly convicted. What percentage did they speculating are wrongfully convicted?
But for me, pure and simply, IF I support the death penalty it makes me no better than them, it's murder, hiding it behind the state is no justification...
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Mikado
I DO think that life should mean life..
As a non American, we hear horror stories regularly of things like the three strikes and you're out laws.... it seems that something in the American culture development has taken them on a vastly differing course from the rest do the developed world...
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sparrowdown
The whole idea of taking life as a business is a bit of a worry.
What method to use, how long it takes to die, weighing up various options.
What sort of people make those kinds of decisions as part of an average workday.
Yet I imagine there are professions devoted to coming up with ingenious and cheap new ways to dispose of people.
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talesin
Mikado, over 50% of the people in Federal USA prisons are there for drug offenses. The WAR ON DRUGS has made the prison industry one of the fastest growing and most profitable in the USA. Oh, and follow the money ........ do some research and see who is profitting. Hint: Powerful politicians and their friends ........ Most of those in prison for life on the 3-strike rule are not violent offenders - they are involved in drugs either as a user or small-time trafficker (ie, the guy on the corner who sells a dime bag). It's big money, and money rules.
LisaRose, , exactly - let's get radical and look for solutions. But that's not how our society works, and that is sad. With all the technology and science we have available, our leaders are more interested in the pursuit of wealth and power, than they are in making the world a better place.
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Mikado
In my opinion the whole war of drugs is a joke. Prohibition never works, legalization of drugs would remove the whole need for crime....