Well, what can you say???? I am speechless.

by DATA-DOG 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Magnum

  to all comments.

  OnTheWayOut: If you had heeded the advice of the Watchtower, you are probably working hard for low wages and retirement is not really practical for you.

  I was younger in '69 and wasn't around for that article, but I was around for the '75 stuff. What especially got me, though, was the generation doctrine. Eighty years max from 1914 was 1994. That was it. The end was supposed to be here by '94 at the latest. The 1-1-89 Watchtower, as well as the book The Nations Shall Know That I AM Jehovah (page 216), both said in black-and-white terms that the end would be here before the 20th century ended. I lived accordingly. I quit jobs. Got no education or training. Worked menial, minimum wage jobs. Made no plans for the future - no retirement, no savings, etc.

  OnTheWayOut: If you heeded the advice, you probably don't have an adult child to take care of you as the March mag. suggests. Afterall, the end was so close and times were so wicked, so it was no time to have children.

  Yep, that's me. Didn't even consider having children. Woe to those suckling a babe in those days. I'll rot in a nursing home with not a soul to even care that I'm still breathing.

  OnTheWayOut: What do you think the congregation will do to help you if you cannot continue to work until you die and social security just isn't enough?

  Not a damned thing. The org took my life, my money, my aspirations, etc. The big shot corporate bosses will live in luxury while I slave and toil. The work I do is physically demanding. I work outside in the elements. It is very mentally taxing because I am scrutinized in so many ways. I make extremely low wages. I will have to toil until I am unable. When I get to the point that I can't toil anymore, the org won't give me back one cent of anything it ever took from me. And, to think, not only did I slave for the org, but I actually paid to do it. At least the company I work for now is paying me something to slave for it. It is FAR more giving and caring than the org has ever been or will be.
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  punkofnice

  Review box:

  • How can parents and their adult children prepare for “the days of distress”?

  • What situations might indicate that your parents’ needs have changed?

  • In practical terms, what can you do to assist when someone is caring for an elderly parent?

  The WBT$ hopes that whatever happens they get all the money in the will.

  If one party is DF or DA then no one has to f()£ing care about looking after someone........................as long as the WBT$ get the money.
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  OnTheWayOut

  Yeah, let us not forget those that did not heed the 1969 advice and felt guilty about pursuing "worldly" goals.

  WTS hopes that many of them will appease that guilt by leaving everything to WTS instead of their children.
  Afterall, the end is so close. The multimillion dollar tax-free corporation needs that money more than your hardworking children.
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  sparky1

  Some of the best advice in life I ever got was when I was taking a late middle aged man , his younger wife and early teenaged daughter on tour at Watchtower Farms in early Spring 1976. He told me that he had been a Bethelite in the late 30's and early 40's. He remembers being told over and over again that Armageddon was just MONTHS away. His advice to me was: 'Don't take everything the Society says literally. If you fall for their teachings hook,line and sinker you will never have much of a life.' By July that year I was gone from Watchtower Farms................
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  GoUnion

  thanks for this post data dog. The very best arguement against the organization is using it's own teachings and words. I know I will be printing the 69 awake to use with this wt now. Well done sir.
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  DATA-DOG

  OTWO said,

  " There's nothing wrong with hard work and money isn't everything. It's just a shame that Watchtower decided for you." And, " WTS hopes that many of them will appease that guilt by leaving everything to WTS instead of their children."

  Well, said. The GB want a "Special Relationship" with the R&F. That being, the GB speak for GOD and the R&F file comply because if they don't, they will displease GOD and they may be executed. This is the same "Special Relationship" that the Fremont Elders denied in the Conti case if I am not mistaken. The GB control what JWs do and don't do. The average dub looks to these men for guidance because of the extraordinary claim of divine backing. This "special relationship" that the GB defend to the point of DF'ing any who disagree with their decisions, may end up being the very rope that they hang themselves with.

  The upcoming WT articles are disgusting. Not because the information is impractical, but because they are "solutions" offered by the genius Spiritual Gurus who caused the problem in the first place because of their ignorance and ego-maniacal behavior. It's the total lack of accountability on the part of the WTBTS that is so maddening. It makes you feel like you are taking crazy-pills.

  Here are some nice gems:

  1) " What, though, about actually providing care for them? Whose responsibility is that?" [ "It sure as shit aint ours!!", says the GB.]

  THE FAMILY’S RESPONSIBILITY

  The apostle Paul was inspired to write that believers should provide for their own households. (Read 1 Timothy 5:4, 8, 16.) Consider the context of what Paul wrote to Timothy. Paul discussed who might and who might not qualify to receive financial support from the congregation. He made it plain that believing children, grandchildren, and other relatives of elderly widows were to be the primary providers. Thus, no unnecessary financial burden would be on the congregation. Likewise today, one of the ways in which Christians practice “godly devotion” is by providing materially for relatives in need.

  More like, " Thus, no unnecessary financial burden would be on the CORPORATION."

  It's great when obtuse and unrepentant people have the gall to offer sage advice on dealing with the fallout that their false teachings caused in the first place. The GB just love you so much!!

  DD
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  villagegirl

  Magnum - If you are in Canada, there are many ways you can secure

  yourself into retirement. PM me
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  twice shy

  Thanks for the post. It will help me a lot before it's too late with my teens.

  Its sad to read this,but the enlightenment it brings will benefit so many of all ages to help make their next steps. It will really drive home that they need to have a valid long term plan for survival.

  Can't stop shaking my head but I'm sure this will go a long ways for any lingering or resurfacing doubts. Wish I would of had this article 15years ago.

  Meow. Just unbelievable.
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  DesirousOfChange

  And we bought it hook line and sinker......

  Yep. And look what it got us.

  

  Doc
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  zed is dead

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