Did the GB ever receive new light without the passage of time forcing it upon them?

by Zoos 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Fernando
    Fernando

    Great question and topic.

    Without the passage of time, and without questions and contrary proof from the R&F or detractors?

    I doubt it...

  • Zoos
    Zoos

    Magnum, the generation doctrine is the perfect example - I should have used it. They're still grappling with it and will continue for many years as time will eventually force yet more new light.

    Even the new light on the identity of the F&DS did not just happen. I suspect it was due to too many "emotionally imbalanced" anointed people wanting to insert their spirit-directed thinking into the literature.

    Reactive!

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    This was one of the best examples to me of the WT's prediction methods.

  • zed is dead
    zed is dead

    Three things bring about NuLite:

    1. Need for money.

    2. Potential litigation.

    3. The calendar.

    (Notice that holy spirit is not one of them)

    zed

  • Julia Orwell
    Julia Orwell

    The prophetic events being known after the event was in the Daniel book they studied only a few years ago .

  • piztjw
    piztjw

    I can't even begin to count the numerous times I have heard the, "Many times we don't know that prophecy has been fulfilled until AFTER the fact, in the light of Bible verses."

    IDK, but couldn't ANY event be twisted to fit almost ANY Bible verse, as the "interpreter" wished?

  • Magnum
    Magnum

    zed is dead:

    Three things bring about NuLite:

    1. Need for money.

    2. Potential litigation.

    3. The calendar.

    I agree. Hope you don't mind if I add one thing to your list.

    4. Desire for power.

    I think the recent new light changing the FDS from all anointed to just GB came about because the GB wanted to seize all power and control. I believe it (the GB) was getting unwanted input, suggestions, gripes, outright complaints, disagreements, etc. from partakers all over the world. And, really, according to the old light, those partakers had every right to have a say-so; the GB was supposed to just be their "spokesman", not their boss or superior. I believe that in order to shut these partakers up and consolidate power, the GB and its cronies starting searching the Scriptures looking for a way to make them (the Scriptures) fit their need, their current desired doctrine. Result: non-GB partakers have no more say-so than an earthly class toddler.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    A few years ago they had some new light about the tose of the statue in the book of Daniel and this time they mean nothing. I dont think this new light was do to any pressure other than to throw the R&F a bone.

  • Bobcat
    Bobcat

    Crazyguy wrote:

    A few years ago they had some new light about the tose of the statue in the book of Daniel and this time they mean nothing. I dont think this new light was do to any pressure other than to throw the R&F a bone.

    You might be right about that. The "new light" about the "toes" of Daniel chapter 2 was actually recycled "new light."

    *** w78 6/15 p. 13 Human Governments Crushed by God’s Kingdom ***
    Tracing the development of the world powers through the image, from head to foot in the stream of time, we see that it begins with Babylon, and progressively goes through Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. The “fourth kingdom,” represented in the legs and feet, began with the Roman Empire. As time progressed, the power of this empire waned and the British Empire ascended, it being really an outgrowth from the old Roman Empire. This was so even though there was a vying with certain remnants of the Roman Empire for the position of world power. (Dan. 7:19, 20) There does not appear to be any prophetic significance to the image’s having ten toes. This is a natural human feature, just as the image has two arms, two legs, and so forth.

    Maybe they should be charged with false advertising. If I'm going to buy into some "new light," I want it to actually be "new," not "refurbished."

  • Magnum
    Magnum

    Crazyguy, I agree that there can be minor "new light" adjustments in teaching that aren't necessitated by failure of previous teaching, but those aren't necessarily date-sensitive. I think the OP was referring more to bigger, date-sensitive, predictive teachings - those that are finally shown to be wrong by the calendar. That's what I was referring to in my first post on this thread; that's why I used the phrase "big stuff".

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