No I’m seriously not being huffy I’m just bowing out as you don’t get the subtlety of my points and I have dinner to cook.
What would this world be like today , if their was never , ever , any concept of a GOD or a Creator .?
by smiddy 29 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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cofty
you don’t get the subtlety of my points
Be less subtle then.
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Seraphim23
I can’t because something’s are subtle. Anyhow I’m going to eat and I don’t have time devote an entire evening to you.
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cofty
Thanks god for that.
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DJS
Religion and god have delayed progress by several centuries. Note the data below:
In a study of the relationship between countries' belief in a god and average Intelligence Quotient, measured by Lynn, Harvey & Nyborg, which compared religious belief and average national IQs in 137 countries. "The study analysed the issue from several viewpoints. First, using data from a U.S. study of 6,825 adolescents, the authors found that atheists scored 6 IQ points higher than non-atheists.
Second, the authors investigated the link between religiosity and intelligence on a country level. Among the sample of 137 countries, only 23 (17%) had more than 20% of atheists, which constituted “virtually all... higher IQ countries.” The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be “highly statistically significant”.
When people rely on god/religion, their brains shut down.
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smiddy
When people rely on god/religion, their brains shut down.
Isn`t this borne out over the centuries by such nations and continents such as Africa , India , Pakistan , etc.etc. ? Muslim countries in particular have been held back by religion for centuries . I`m contrasting these countrys/nations with western nations europe /americas , one has a more stricter adherence to their religion that governs every aspect of their life , putting a restriction on their thinking and development , the other , their religion doesnt restrict their thinking outside the box and they will push the boundaries and are open to new ideas which has brought us out of the horse and buggy stage.
smiddy
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DJS
Smid,
When we were in the Borg, our brains shut down, including mine to some degree. We let someone else think and plan for us. We limited our ability to think, learn, explore, and expand our knowledge of the world.
Relgiions are no different that national economies. If you exclude half the population, you will always be second rate and never ful-filli the potential. Allowing women, minorities and those with different persuasions to not only participate but flourish helps expand a country's GDP and its scientific and economic capabilities. The same concept is true for religions; and nearly every major religion has suppressed women, gays, etc. for thousands of years.
This isn't a difficult OP to understand. Religion and a belief in god have hindered man's progress by centuries. The theory suggests it; the facts suggest it.
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Seraphim23
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_religion_and_science
The relationship between religion and science has been a subject of study since Classical antiquity, addressed by philosophers, theologians, scientists, and others. Perspectives from different geographical regions, cultures and historical epochs are diverse, with some characterizing the relationship as one of conflict, others describing it as one of harmony, and others proposing little interaction.
Science and religion generally pursue knowledge of the universe using different methodologies. Science acknowledges reason, empiricism, and evidence, while religions include revelation, faith and sacredness. Despite these differences, most scientific and technical innovations prior to the Scientific revolution were achieved by societies organized by religious traditions. Much of the scientific method was pioneered first by Islamic scholars, and later by Christians. Hinduism has historically embraced reason and empiricism, holding that science brings legitimate, but incomplete knowledge of the world. Confucian thought has held different views of science over time. Most Buddhists today view science as complementary to their beliefs.
Events in Europe such as the Galileo affair, associated with the Scientific revolution and the Age of Enlightenment, led scholars such as John William Draper to postulate a conflict thesis, holding that religion and science conflict methodologically, factually and politically. This thesis is advanced by contemporary scientists such as Richard Dawkins, Steven Weinberg and Carl Sagan, and proposed by many creationists. While the conflict thesis remains popular for the public, it has lost favor among most contemporary historians of science
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Seraphim
Yeah. Sure it does. Religion also has excluded most of its adherents from advancing socially, economically and intellectually for thousands of years. This is nothing more than a feel good cut and past devoid of serious information. Religion is the problem and always has been. Anyone who wasn't male and in charge was relegated to the back row, treated as property, not allowed to own property, not allowed access to education, etc. for thousands of years. That is still the situation with a lot of religions today, including Islam to a large degree and the Borg.
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Seraphim23
Hmmm, “Only A Sith Deals In Absolutes”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgpytjlW5wU&feature=player_detailpage