Misquote in the Creation Book

by ILoveTTATT 56 Replies latest jw friends

  • Master_Bob
    Master_Bob

    Creation's misquotes opened my eyes to TTATT, so I belive if you can communicate the issue appropriately with your father, you will be able to help him. My favorite is at page 96 of ce:
    " 38 Before concluding that Bible chronology is in error, consider that radioactive dating methods have come under sharp criticism by some scientists. A scientific journal reported on studies showing that “dates determined by radioactive decay may be off—not only by a few years, but by orders of magnitude.” It said: “Man, instead of having walked the earth for 3.6 million years, may have been around for only a few thousand.” ( 53 - Popular Science, “How Old Is It?” by Robert Gannon, November 1979, p. 81.) 38. Do dates that are determined by radioactive decay and that are in conflict with Bible chronology prove that the Bible is in error?" "

    First of all it's not a quote from a "scientific journal" but a popular science magazine, namely the "Popular Science". Second Creation does not tell us that Robert Gentry, the man who made the study, is a 7th Day Adventist. And third and most importan, the conclusion “Man, instead of having walked the earth for 3.6 million years, may have been around for only a few thousand.” is not only NOT supported by the "scientific journal", but is not even formulated by Gentry. It nothing more than an ironical comment by the Popular Science writer! But in Creation it is presented as a valid scientific argument.

    You can find the original quote here, at the right column: http://www.popsci.com/archive-viewer?id=QQEAAAAAMBAJ&pg=81

    When I first read it, I literally grabed my hair, poped off the chair like a champagne cork and started walking around the room (with handes still in my hair :-) )

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    Hi, Master_Bob, it took me a while (reading and re-reading) to figure out that the magazine was very dismissive of Robert Gentry. Was there ever more discussion on his "annomaly"?

    "Yet major mysteries and curious anomalies remain - the odd speculations advanced by Columbia Union College's Robert Gentry, for instance."

    "Physicist Gentry believes that all of the dates determined by radioactive decay may be off - not only by a few years, but by orders of magnitude."

    It's sometimes very hard for me to determine if the quote can actually be said to be deceptive, or if it's not. The deception can be subtle (such as calling PopSci a "scientific journal").

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    Ha!!

    Isn't this ironic?

    *** ce chap. 2 p. 24 par. 26 Disagreements About Evolution—Why? ***

    "But if any other theory had such enormous remaining difficulties, and such major contradictions among those who advocate it, would it so readily be pronounced a fact? Merely repeating that something is a fact does not make it a fact."

    Is Jesus God or not?

    Did Jesus die on a cross or a stake?

    Did Jesus exist?

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    "Merely repeating that something is a fact does not make it a fact."

    .

    Say, for example, like god chose the WT in 1919 as his special, only true religion? Is that what they mean?

  • VM44
    VM44

    Barbara Anderson posted a letter she received from the Peloyans.

    She also presented a photo of Harry and Rose, so you can see how they appeared.

  • ILoveTTATT
    ILoveTTATT

    I have several quotes now, in PDF format. I should make like a PDF booklet on it!!

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    PLease do

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    Yes please do.

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    If only Harry and Rosie's last name was "Butts".

    That would be awesome.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    ILoveTTATT, Thanks for sharing!

    This is the reason that the WT rarely cites the sources for their quotes: they are often taken out of context. I think they thought that, because of "scientific" nature of this subject, in this book they should cite all sources, but--as with the Trinity brochure--it really back-fired on them.

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