cofty - "The irony of murdering all the infants in order to bring an end to child sacrifice never seems to occur to them."
It's like Vietnam; destroying the village to save it.
by Daniel1555 25 Replies latest watchtower bible
cofty - "The irony of murdering all the infants in order to bring an end to child sacrifice never seems to occur to them."
It's like Vietnam; destroying the village to save it.
Hi,
This is what I think...God was doing what he was doing in the OT...because his son Jesus wasn't born as of yet, but he was in heaven with them...Jesus was in the making....learning, watching & studying with Jehovah. Now follow me... do any of you ever notice folks before they had kids...they have no empathy for anything, why can't you work late, if I were you, I would....all these comments they would say. Then one day they become parents, & they are a different folks, all warm & fuzzy...understand things they never did, they see life differently...Now let's talk about God, maybe he was more strict before his son came to earth..maybe by Jesus coming to earth softened God's heart...The birth of a child does change a parent.....God watched his son grow up on earth...now what Jesus was doing while he was in heaven before his birth, who knows...maybe he was saying Father, when I go to earth are you going to kill all them folks while I'm down there...& God says...NO, I'm going to allow you to be killed, but don't worry Son...I promise to bring you back...or maybe all those years, Jesus was pleading mankinds case to save them, but God said, not yet ....your time is coming..Just a crazy thought I had one day. I have read the OT....I think it's consequences of not listening to him...& we all do have to remember....He did warn folks...turn away from other gods, stop sacrificing your children....blah blah blah....but they didn't listen. Justice & Justification are two different things. So I won't say it's justice or justification, but it is sad to hear how so many were killed...& if the children were kept alive would they suffer from the loss of their parents, would the Jews adopt them & raise them, would the children grow up to continue what Jehovah hated...who knows...it's no different now, kids today are targets, they can't go to school with the fear of someone going off, can't ride in the elevator, go to the store, stand outstide...we are killing our own kids...we neglect them too...we talk on our cell phones all day long even when we are with our chidren, we keep them so busy by taking them to so many activities that they don't know whether they are coming or going....it's the quality of time we give them not the quantity.We give them so many things instead of love, because most of our jobs are so demanding we don't get time with our children, yet when we do, again we are on our cells, Facebook, activities...so there are more ways to kill & sacrifice our children....WE JUST PLAIN NEGLECT THEM...maybe in the OT we can blame God, but now the finger points at us.
Legacy
um, child "sacrifice" is okay when Jehovah decrees it, but not when "false" gods do.
Hi,
I don't know who wrote a comment about, maybe the God of the bible is not really God. It could be man just scaring folks to be good because if you don't he'll get you... "I believe in god, but I believe he is much different than the bible describes him / her / it. I also believe he created the natural laws in a way that life can evolve (theistic evolution)" This is was one of the comments that I think is more accurate....I think the main purpose of what God really wanted was True worship to only him...not idols, not crosses, saints, etc. Just him...give him all the glory...he created all things...so if you created all things, humans, air, food, etc., wouldn't you want your props...imagine, you built a house, built the furniture, worked the land to build the house...& you did it all alone...how would you feel if someone came along & said....John built the house & all the other stuff, but I'm going to give the credit to someone else..Now aren't we made in the image of God & don't we get angry & jealous when we don't get the credit...now I'm not saying we go around killing folks, but I'm just saying.
It all started with that Adam & Eve.....the word kill wouldn't even exist in our vocabulary...it's all too confusing.....we shouldn't kill even if we have a reason but God can, cuz he is the reason...
Legacy
Thanks Legacy for your comments.
I agree with you that we should spend "quality" time with our children and not neglect them.
Further to that, in the congregations I attended, the most common reason given from the platform was that if you kill the adults in a rat's nest you have to kill the babies too because they grow up into rats. That's why babies and children have to die at Armageddon. Charming belief, isn't it?
Ahhh...no matter how they spin it...the fact is that killing an innocent baby...who has not yet been subjected to external influences is wrong.
A child can come from an awful background (think of abandoned babies), and be raised by new "parents" and develop into an amazing person...
Also, the WT doctine teaches that anyone directly killed by Jehovah or at his command...WILL NOT get a ressurection...so none of those babies will ever get raised
Isn't it entertaining when apologists resort to an Iron Age moral code?
Religion is laways playing catch-up with secular morality.
JW's are obviously fine with chidren and babies being killed
since this is what they teach their own children will become of them
if they do not stay in the "organization" and obey the "governing body"
Its their main message. China has 33% more young menin their twenties
and of marriageable age than young women, because of the long standing
policy to abort any child that is not male. Apparently nobody did the math.
This has also happened in India due to ultrasounds available and sex-based
abortions, whole villages without any girls. Others just neglect and abuse children.