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The Great Crowd
by seekchristonly 91 Replies latest watchtower bible
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johnamos
Quote- In the 1st century. Jesus told those asking the question some of them would still be alive when he returned
So are you saying that Jesus already returned??? When was that???
Quote- he told them the tribulation was for one time only NEVER to be repeated again.
So did the following already take place???
5 And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it. 6 And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his residence, even those residing in heaven. 7 And there was granted it to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation. 8 And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it; the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered, from the founding of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 10 If anyone [is meant] for captivity, he goes away into captivity. If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed with the sword. Here is where it means the endurance and faith of the holy ones.
11 And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
14 And it misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. 15 And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast.
16 And it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
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2 And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest.
3 And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say: “Come!” 4 And another came forth, a fiery-colored horse; and to the one seated upon it there was granted to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another; and a great sword was given him.
5 And when he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say: “Come!” And I saw, and, look! a black horse; and the one seated upon it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice as if in the midst of the four living creatures say: “A quart of wheat for a de·nar´i·us, and three quarts of barley for a de·nar´i·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine.”
7 And when he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say: “Come!” 8 And I saw, and, look! a pale horse; and the one seated upon it had the name Death. And Ha´des was closely following him. And authority was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword and with food shortage and with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth.
9 And when he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those slaughtered because of the word of God and because of the witness work that they used to have. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying: “Until when, Sovereign Lord holy and true, are you refraining from judging and avenging our blood upon those who dwell on the earth?” 11 And a white robe was given to each of them; and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled also of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they also had been.
12 And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and a great earthquake
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seekchristonly
The 144,000 weresealed in the 1st century. The hyperbole language used in revelation were taken form the old testamnet prophets like ezekiel who used the same language to describe something for example the whole earth shook, or the end of the world described in ezekeil when he was talking about some war Israle was hving with its neighbours , the eworld did not end at that time it was not literal it was hyperbole language
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designs
So sayeth our newest and latest holy guy....
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KateWild
Keep posting mister, get it out your system. So as I asked in another post has Armageddon come too?
Kate xx
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seekchristonly
It was written Do NOT seal up the word sof this prophecy because the time was at hand or near close etc meaning in that 1st century generation. If it was not for thousands of years later then the prophecy would have been sealed
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designs
So when did you accept this Preterist view.
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seekchristonly
Yes Jesus did return just like HE SAID he would to those standing in fornt of him 2000 years ago. Because the churches have conditoned everyone to future fulfllment misunderstanding and misinterpretation has taken palce since the 1700s. Ask yourself who do oyu listen to or beleive Jesus Christs own words or man
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seekchristonly
All things have beenfulfilled because they were not about the end of the world but about the end of the jewish age,system,covenant,jerusalemand the t temple.The Kingdom is here now it is within the kings and preists are serving with him in Heaven and have been for 2000 years.Messiah waits for all to enter in.It is spiritual.There is no more death
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seekchristonly
The Great Harlot was Jerusalem