Demons and Seances....What do you think?

by VioletAnai 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • VioletAnai
    VioletAnai

    I posted this in part on another thread, but am curious to know if anyone else has had experiences with seances.

    My mum told me her story:

    She was having a seance. It was her aunty May apparantly. Things started getting out of hand. Glasses flew across the room, the table was flipped and my mum was freaking. She screamed the name Jehovah - she'd neva heard it in her life (gran was roman catholic!) and the violence stopped. A few weeks later, she received a visit from the jw's and hasn't looked back.

    My sisters story (in part):

    When she lived on the streets of Sydney they'd squat and quite a few houses have caused them trouble. Knives thrown at them....footsteps down the corridor...my sister has some freaky bathroom stories too. Anyway she had a seance once and was told that gran was sick inside. Not long after that, she was diagnosed with cancer. She was operated on and went into remission (phew!!).

    My story:

    My sister and I thought it'd be fun. So for two hours we called and nutting. Finally the glass moves and I start freaking (my first seance and what with my jw background - my sister didn't care...she's bin a street punk since 15). Apparantly it is our Granddad Fred. We ask all sorts of questions. I ask about my past life (yeah right!!! rolls eyes) and I'm told I was a dutch knight (of course! that explains my luv of medievil) and my sister was Madame Blavosky (sic...badly) which she loved seeing as she was big on satanism and wiccan.

    Ok so then I ask about my family. Big mistake! Told my gran would die in two months...she did. Fred said he couldn't wait to see her in heaven. Then I ask about mum...she'd live a long and happy life. Bro's and sisters will be fine...we'd be rich. Then my dad - told he'd be dead in six years from his heart. Six years is this year and well I'm freaking cos he is really sick. On a machine at night to help him breath. Only has to do light exercise and gets red and puffed. He is really sick and I am really scared.

    This is why I have never doubted that demons exist!

    I'd be interested to know if anyone else has had similar experiences.

  • Valis
    Valis

    And this is a good example of someone who believes in spiritism/demonism....there is no doubt that JWs and their protractors are superstitious.

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • NameWithheld
    NameWithheld

    Oh yes, the demons told my little smurf doll I'd be rich in 4 years. And I found a dollar 4 years later!!!!! It IS true!!!!

  • Hyghlandyr
    Hyghlandyr

    Without disputing your experience, there are plenty of explanations for such things short of demons. It is a well known fact for instance that the dead are able to interact with the living in very limited ways. Because of this they often seem angry. An example would be a child, an infant. Trying to get your attention, speaking to you, she wants milk. But you do not give her milk. She tells you numerous times. Finally she chides you by crying. Ghosts, not demons, have been demontrated to do this very thing multiple times. In fact even Samuel came up from the grave in the bible to answer a question. He was so mad at Saul that he gave saul some misleading information.

    Science has proven that demons rarely interact with humans. Ghosts on the other hands, being humans really, interact with humans all the time.

  • Beans
    Beans

    Man do you ever confuse me!

    -You smoke drugs!
    -You practice satanic ritualls!
    -You back the Watchtower!

    Are you mad? Your totally bent to the ways of your supossed teachings that you follow. I am so perplexed as to what you really believe, but it goes to show me that Jehovahs Witnesses really don`t believe the same thing from country to country.

    Beans

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge
    On a machine at night to help him breath. Only has to do light exercise and gets red and puffed

    Violet: not to change the subject, and without knowing your dad's situation, I just wanted to let you know that a few years ago my stepfather was also on a machine for a couple of months. He was also prescribed medicated inhalers to use everyday. After he passed on we found out that he never used the inhalers because he couldn't use it right. If he had, he would have probably added a couple of years to his life. (Like I said, I don't know if this applies, but take it for what it's worth).

  • VioletAnai
    VioletAnai

    Beans hun...I'm not trying to confuse you.

    I was sexually abused by a man professing to be jw. I left to get answers...and now that I found them...I'm back. I used to practice satanism, then wiccan and yes seances were part of it among other things. I was also a binge drinker and a potsmoker...mostly tho these were my teen years.

    I no longer practice these things and have rid myself of divination tools.

    However...I will always believe that there are spirits out there that would like to see us come to harm.

    This post was to see if anyone else had a similar experience with seances...

    Again....I don't think I mentioned anything about jw's and my current experiences....

  • Beans
    Beans

    May the United Peaceful Divine Hope for Victorious Joyful Sacred Fruitage of Loyal Integrity Keeping Truth Seekers guide you to your destination!

    Love Beans

  • VioletAnai
    VioletAnai

    Should I start an Australian UPDHVJSFLIKTS branch?

  • gsx1138
    gsx1138

    Well, as a practicing Wiccan I can tell you that most things can be scientifically explained. I would prefer to try and explain things with science until it is not possible then use supernatural explanations. I do notice that it is mostly christians that encounter "demons". Perhaps the overwhelming belief that christians have in demons gives them the power to make their presence felt. Since I have completely stopped all belief in the Bible and christianity I have not even felt a hint of evil around me. Where as, when I was a JW I had a few unexplainable events happen that were pretty damn scary.
    Praying to the Goddess and/or God everyday seems to do just fine for me. I can't pass judgement on your first story but I have heard many JW urban legends about invoking the name of Jehovah to drive out evil. Sorry but I think all of them were complete crap.

    Dear Lord, please save me from your followers.

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