No Refusal Blood Checkpoints!

minimus

In Oregon, during the 4th of July weekend, troopers will be conducting checkpoints to see if someone has been drinking. If someone refuses a breath test, they will be forced to have their blood extracted from them.

What do you think of this?

breakfast of champions

Must be an Oregon thing.

In my state if you refuse a breathalyzer test, you're automatically charged with DUI.

Yes, the drawing blood involuntarily thing is quite invasive. I think I'd rather just be charged.

minimus

"Invasive" is the word. "Terrible" is the other word.

DesirousOfChange

Our county or state has instituted the same policy.

Very intrusive.

Very profitable in generating revenue.

It's not about safety. It's about revenue.

If law enforcement was about safety, there would be no "unmarked" cars because statistics show that the visible presence of law enforcement has a dramatic affect in reducing all crime.

Jesus condemned the tax collectors.

Doc

minimus

DOC, well put.

truth_b_known

I believe a more correct telling of the tell is persons refusing to give a sample will result in law enforcement obtaining a search warrant for the person's blood.

By accepting a driver license in most states you give implied conset to give a breath or blood sample upon request of a law enforcement officer during an investigation of DWI/DUI.

DWI/DUI is one of the hardest criminal offenses to prove in court. All the alleged defendant has to do during a police investigation is refuse to perform standardized field sobriety tests and refuse to a a breath/blood sample. This pretty much prevents most evidence of the crime from being used against them and forces the police to obtain a search warrant for blood. During this time, the defendant's body is eliminated the alcohol in his blood, literally destroying evidence.

In addition, the Kansas City Study showed that the level of visible presence of police in a community has no effect on the level of crimes committed. More or less marked cars. More or less uniformed officers. No change in the level of crime.

minimus

When I see marked police cars I automatically slow down---even if I'm doing the speed limit.

villagegirl

They can't force a breath test ? But they can force a needle

in your arm or finger ? Hilarious

DesirousOfChange

the Kansas City Study showed that the level of visible presence of police in a community has no effect on the level of crimes committed.

This Florida State University shows otherwise:

https://www.fsu.edu/news/2005/06/24/more.cops/

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If the KC study is accepted as factual, then why does every municipality apply for federal funds to hire additional police officers?

FIGURES LIE AND LIARS FIGURE.

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Question: "How do these figures add up to you?"

Lawyer: "What do you want them to add up to?"

Doc

SAHS

To me, it’s really just six of one and half a dozen of the other. Being determined to be over the legal limit through breath or blood is really the same thing: it all boils down to the magic blood alcohol content/concentration (BAC) proportion/percentage in the body. A fail is a fail now matter how you express it. It’s really just a matter of taking a test (in whatever form) or refusing. I mean, they’re going to get you one way or the other, right?

No Refusal Blood Checkpoints!

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