No Refusal Blood Checkpoints!

by minimus 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • minimus
    minimus

    I don't like cops with needles.

  • cofty
    cofty

    In UK a driver is required to give a sample of breath. Refusal to provide a sample of breath is an offense that carries the same penalty as drink driving.

    A positive roadside test will result in the driver being arrested and taken to a police station for a more accurate breath testing machine. If the breath sample is close to the limit the driver has a right to request a blood sample is taken and used in evidence in place of the breath sample.

    The policedon't ask for a blood sample in the UK. The exception might be if somebody has caused a fatal and the driver is unconscious in hospital.

    I would not trust a cop with a needle.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Just another step along the road to America Being the most powerful police state on the globe...

    And everybody accepts the continuing erosion of human freedoms in the US of A

    WHY??????

  • Focus
    Focus

    Good.

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    Focus

    ("I have a bigger needle" Class)

  • Rattigan350
    Rattigan350

    Checkpoints are constitutional by the US Supreme court, but several states declared them unconstitutional by their state's constitution.

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    Im split on this. Its invasive and terrible.....but if it keeps some dude from plowing into my family because he was a big man that night......then I don't care.

    Drunk drivers still kill quite a few people.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Do you have a link to this law?

  • HeyThere
    HeyThere

    Problemaddict....agreed. drunk drivers kill people...just take the dang breath test then the blood thing doesn't matter. Cops don't want to just be out there taking blood from everyone, they probably don't feel great joy at that whole concept...that is another risk for them! Think of some of the people they will have to test?!!?! Yikes!

  • minimus
    minimus

    I saw this on drudge report.

  • snare&racket
    snare&racket

    There is a reason, the longer they have to wait between the scene (roadside) and testing, the more evidence is lost.

    Taking a blood sample is the most accurate way of knowing the alcohol level in the system, with time passing.

    I guess option one.... convict all breath test refusals or option 2 you get an accurate and fair second chance with the blood test.

    It may be the 'accurate' breath test machines we have in the uk are not that accurate with time passing, anyone who has watched the police chase tv programs in the Uk have seen people blow over the limit at the roadside then some time later, blow under at the station, leaving with a warning.

    If it is anything like the uk, only qualified health workers can take blood, police stations here have a visiting nurse that check over inmates and can do bloods. Blood samples can be ruined if done incorrectly. A famous example was the Diana driver who according to blood samples taken by a dodgy unknown health professional, showed him to be over the limit by several times, but coroners argued this because the blood was taken from an open chest wound exposed to many fluids and chemical changes due to the surrounding damaged tissues and car fluids/contaminants.

    I don't wish to face an onslaught now, we all respect america for its ideology for freedom, but people seem to be very .......Alex Jones nowadays. Oh dear I'm in trouble now aren't I..

    "They are taking my blood, against my will, so they can use my DNA to estimate my coffin size at the FEMA camps, we know this people, because I have seeeeeen the documents! WAKE UP to the new world order before it is too late for your children! Now, over to you Governor Ventura..."

    It's just a blood sample.....and it is in the context of a drink driving incident.....

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