Just came across this jw comment on the interweb, what do you think? (page 2)

skin

Wild_Thing: I was once told this by an MS friend of mine "That if I wasn't being persecuted in some way for being a JW, then I wasn't putting in enough effort in doing Jehovahs will". So yes, we need to be looking to make persecution so that we can prove to ourselfs that we have the truth.

steve2

My faith is badly flagging. Kindly persecute me to help me fire it up again. Thank you.

Ocean1111

True.

Part of the overall ramifications of an organizational set of policies that touch deeply into people's lives open the organization to litigation and other forms of "blowback" in the future.

The fact is ordering and threatening people to "obey" is the legal evidence to establish this guilt, it is in writing and practice in the Bethel organization.

Now if these things have led to people dying (blood command of the organization will take legal precedent), getting raped and abused (pedophile database and org aiding and abetting), and being psychologically tortured (shunning as a org command), then in time the national jurisdictions will be able to swoop in for the kill and booty when it becomes more necessary (financially) in the coming days.

But as we note, BETHEL are the very ones who set up back then, the later potential for attack! It is already programmed into the system to aid global deconstruction of the Bethel corps, it is as if the GB was helping destroy the organization gradually from within.

And this is enabled by the "disfellowshipping" system of an overkill. It is the 1980 based, fanatical elder arrangement and it's fomenting "Bethel inquisition" that is the guilt of Bethel, by it's own hand, they even define their own liability, in writing and implemented policy under coercion. If one did not take part in the Bethel crimes, one is censured themselves, it is a self-destructive cycle in any sense.

The cure would be to simply respect people's own conscience, and as Christian or not, LET PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION, not that of the proxy "GB conscience" which is as good as seared road kill, obviously NOTHING is beyond justification of the GB so-called "collective conscience". (But as we see, the "hyper holy" Bethel drug has also infected many JWs who justify these crimes as "protections". In JWs the true victim of the Bethel "inquisition" "deserves it". So JWs are cleverly controlled by their own "spiritual superiority complex" to aid the Bethel spiritual criminals.)

In fact the Bethel downfall of the years it will take to re-allocate that corporate complex is so well set-up, we wonder is it really just random and accidental? It seems to have signs of "intelligent design" from within, to have set-up such a guaranteed re-alignment from without.

In my opinion the legal and financial tsunami headed for Bethel will in time tie up the whole mess globally in various ways as other countries exercise their legal rights, that Bethel lawlessness will fully allow access to in the courts. But remember, it is Bethel that set up these bulls-eyes upon their own system, not JWs in general who just get dragged into the crimes one way or another.

Bethel is it's own worst enemy, Bethel is it's own definition of apostasy. It's almost too well hidden in plain sight.

new hope and happiness

You ask " What do you think? and personally I DON THInK, those those quotes are genuine. In truth even if that were the case, those opinions are not the sentiments of most J.W,s i know.

disposable hero of hypocrisy

I can assure you that it's a genuine quote from a genuine witness.. I just wondered if there was any truth to the legal possibilities mentioned.. It'd be great if it was illegal to shun!

Mum

Almost all of the "persecution" I endured as a JW came from my "loving brothers and sisters," not outsiders. They need to take a close look at themselves before crying "persecution" about anyone else!

steve2

Human rights legislation exempts religious groups from being compelled to violate their beliefs in the claimed name of "nondiscrimination".

No Moslem, Hindu, Christian, Jew and so on would be required to perform wedding ceremonies for nonadherents. Indeed, these groups can, and do, refuse to marry men and women who do not belong to the same religion - let alone gay couples! Reign in those wild imaginations people.

Dis-Member

The only persecution, grief, pain, sadness, disappointment, gossip, slander, betrayal and suffering I ever experienced in my relatively short time as a witness came all from inside the kingdom hall and at the hand of other witnesses.

smiddy

In Australia, disfellowshipped and dissasociated are planning on suing JW for emotional and mental hardship for being cast out completely. Some courts are considering this case. It may become illegal in the future to disfellowship people.

I for one would like to see verification of this statement from a reliable source , just saying.

smiddy

Zoos

"NO! I WON'T MARRY THAT GAY COUPLE!"

Just came across this jw comment on the interweb, what do you think?

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