This will be a GREAT organization!

by Kensho 27 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • AndDontCallMeShirley
    AndDontCallMeShirley

    Other than the above the R&F JW's are truly self sacrificing, loving, family oriented, honest and yes dare I say it UNITED people

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    The JWs "united" appearance is the natural result of being forced to conform to the totalitarian rulership of the GB. What seems to be a united organization is nothing more than 7,5 million JWs who simply have no other choice than to conform or be ousted.

    This also applies to "brotherly love". For the most part, JW "friends" are friends only because you happen to go the the same KH; stop attending meetings for even a short time or express the most innocent dosagreement with the GB, and see how many friends you really have. In JW Land: none.

    JWs are "self-sacrificing" only in regards to fulfilling WT's daily/weekly list of mandated tasks. No JWs volunteer to work in soup kitchens or donate to charities. Take a Pioneer off the list and see if they continue to put in Pioneer hours. Without the title to go along with the "self-sacrifice", no JW will expend the effort...ever.

    "Family-oriented": humans are family oriented by nature. This is not due to the work of WT. Besides, how "family-oriented" is a family if they'll shun a family member for life based on nothing more than their family member has a different opinion than the WT? Again, the so-called "family-oriented" aspect of JWs, like their "self-sacrifice", 'unification' and "brotherly love" is only superficial. When put to the test to prove its worth, it falls like a house of cards.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    I'm not interested in following someone who wants to do this:

    Matthew 10:35: For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. - NIV

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Kensho - 1) follow Christ example... 2) stop DF'ing those for challenging current or past doctrine... 3) get rid of the nonsensical blood teaching... 4) stop using the term "worldly"... 5) stop trying to figure out when the end will be... 6) stop protecting pedophiles... 7) get rid of class designations... 8) never ever use prov. 4:18 again... 9) start doing a little humanitarian things... 10) stop downing higher education...

    They'd arguably no longer be Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • Frazzled UBM
    Frazzled UBM

    Kensho - you forgot to add:

    Stop requiring unquestioning obedience and group think

    Stop using guilt, shame and fear of a jealous petty cruel supreme being to manipulate and control

    Stop indoctrinating children

    Stop the conditional love based on the extent of your unquestioning obedience and group think

    Stop making the r&f feel bad for not doing enough

    Stop selectively quoting from the Bible to suit particular purposes and otherwise engaging in misleading and deceptive conduct

    ...and the list goes on...

    and what would happen if you did all those things... the organisation would not exist and you have to start thinking for yourself

    stop grasping at straws and thinking if only the orgnaistion would reform it would be okay...it is rotten to its very core as others have pointed out and if you eraqdicate the rottenness there is nothing left...

    ...the idea of loving one's neighbour and being honest and upright is not unique to the Witnesses - it is basic decency and thoughtfulness and shouldn't exist only because you think you have a mean vengeful supreme being looking over your shoulder all the time...

  • Billy the Ex-Bethelite
    Billy the Ex-Bethelite

    "I'm sure many on here can add to the list!"

    11) Liquidate the entire business and distribute the money back to those of us that contributed time, money, and energy to that mess (except for the GB and those that have already profited from this scam).

  • Frazzled UBM
    Frazzled UBM

    YES Billy with first preference going to victims of sex abuse and retirement age r&F with no retirement income

  • Focus
    Focus

    Liquidate the entire business and distribute the money back to those of us that contributed time, money, and energy to that mess (except for the GB and those that have already profited from this scam).

    Now there, Billy the Ex-Bethelite, almost complete...

    ... include also those who, while never having been members, have been damaged directly due to the borg's malevolent influence on a loved one.

    We're now up to 50 million potential claimants. Say 1 million join in, demonstrating tangible damage to an acceptable degree.

    $10 billion up for grabs, minimum on a real estate alone basis and from just a few countries, ignoring WTS TWS to hide the true (beneficial) ownership which courts can look through in cases as egregious as these. Say $20 billion when we really scratch around to find where the thieves hid it. Remember almost everywhere it's been accumulating tax-free for decades.

    $20 billion / 1 million that's $20,000 each. To "quote" the Rice'd Caiaphas (whose morality was probably an inspiration to Russell) with syncopation by Annas:

    Think of the things you could do with that money,
    Choose any charity - give to the poor.
    We've noted your motives.
    We've noted your feelings.
    This isn't blood money -

    it's comp nothing, comp nothing, comp... nothing more.

    In fact, one is being generous. If it was up to me, the financial part of the settlement - enough to bankrupt the Filthy Whore and put her out of commission on a permanent basis - would be the least of it:

    How should such persons be treated by members of the public they have injured so infamously? We are not living today among theocratic nations where such diseased members of the human race could be exterminated for apostasy from decency and morality, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. 'Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to do evil, and done evil.. And all of the world shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee.'... Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws imposed by our own generosity and kindness, we can take action against such filthy scum only to a certain extent.

    The dripping reluctance that we can't just stone these fiends (or give my "kind" the chance to tear them into pieces while still alive, just like the theocratic she-bears did to the 42 cheeky kids) is rather obvious, isn't it?

    The text sounds familiar? Check out the Watchtower of November 15, 1952 - the QFR on pp. 703-4, and all will become clear!

    However depraved the goatlike, ignorant, still-stuck-in-the-mire "Eyes Shut" Class may find Focus, believe you me, the Great Whore of Bethel is far more depraved still. She created me in her image.

    So, like the sound of $20,000? Not that it's about money.

    Apply here:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/281308/1/A-precious-gift-to-all-from-Jehovah-channelled-via-Focus

    Only one person can stop you staying (just like with "becoming") a victim - and that is you.

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    Focus

    ("Destruction" Class)

  • defender of truth
    defender of truth

    ADCMS: "Take a Pioneer off the list and see if they continue to put in Pioneer hours. Without the title to go along with the "self-sacrifice", no JW will expend the effort...ever. "
    Amen to that. I always wondered what was the point in giving people a title such as 'pioneer'. Obviously it is a motivator, love of God just ain't enough.

    ADCMS said:"No JWs...donate to charities."
    Just have to point out, that is completely untrue. I have done, and still do. So do some of my friends and family that are Witnesses. No need to exaggerate, you're more intelligient than that.

  • Focus
    Focus

    defender of truth:

    ADCMS: "Take a Pioneer off the list and see if they continue to put in Pioneer hours. Without the title to go along with the "self-sacrifice", no JW will expend the effort...ever. "
    Amen to that. I always wondered what was the point in giving people a title such as 'pioneer'. Obviously it is a motivator, love of God just ain't enough.

    This is very standard MLM-101 stuff. Perhaps you are unaware of how all successful MLM (Multi-Level Marketing) corporations operate. Some view it as deceitful. Some as simply an intelligent manipulation of human frailty.

    A Whore supplies what is wanted. A Great Whore does it, well, on a great scale.

    The Watchtower is a MLM oppo, just a massively-diversified cheap, poorly-written (1916 onwards) fiction publishing house that couldn't give a hot damn about the misery and deaths she causes to the deceived. What a shame we don't live in theocratic times, and so have to restrain ourselves, eh?

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    Focus

    ("Anti-MLM" Class)

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    marked

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