YOUNG EARTH?

by Terry 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Vanderhoven7

  "Stone tools were recently discovered in South Africa 700,000 B.C.E.. Villages unearthed in Syria, Egypt, China, France 8000-10,000 B.C.E."

  Designs: Do you have documentation for the 700,000 BC findings?

  From what I have read:

  "The earliest known civilizations arose in Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in modern-day Iraq, Persia in modern day Iran, the Nile valley of Egypt, the Indus Valley region of modern-day Pakistan and North India, and the parallel development of Chinese civilizations in the Huang He and Yangtze River valleys of China. Smaller civilizations arose in Elam in modern-day Iran, and on the island of Crete in the Aegean Sea, as well as the Olmec civilization and the Caral civilization in modern-day Mexico and Peru.
  
  The Mesopotamian civilization of Sumer is officially is believed to have begun around 4000-3500 BC. It ended at 2334 BC with the rise of Akkad, and is the world's first civilization."
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  designs

  V- do your own research, but I would suggest something beyond the creationist sites.
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  Viviane

  A mere 7 billion people living today fits the young earth model, recency of first civilizations fits the young earth model, recency of recorded history fits the young earth model.

  If you see these as evidence to the contrary. please explain.

  Nope, not how it works. You have to connect the dots. Be specific in how a 7 billion person population supports a young earth. Connect the dots.
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  Vanderhoven7

  Here is an interesting question:

  Where are all the skeletal remains?

  "Evolutionists also claim there was a ‘Stone Age’ of about 100,000 years11 when between one million and 10 million people lived on Earth. Fossil evidence shows that people buried their dead, often with artefacts—cremation was not practised until relatively recent times (in evolutionary thinking). If there were just one million people alive during that time, with an average generation time of 25 years, they should have buried 4 billion bodies, and many artefacts. If there were 10 million people, it would mean 40 billion bodies buried in the earth. If the evolutionary timescale were correct, then we would expect the skeletons of the buried bodies to be largely still present after 100,000 years, because many ordinary bones claimed to be much older have been found.12 However, even if the bodies had disintegrated, lots of artefacts should still be found."

  The Encyclopaedia Britannica claims that by the time of Christ, the world’s population was about 300 million. That estimation fits far better with young earth, post Noachian population expectations than it does hundreds of thousands of years of human existence.
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  Viviane

  The Encyclopaedia Britannica claims that by the time of Christ, the world’s population was about 300 million. That estimation fits far better with young earth, post Noachian population expectations than it does hundreds of thousands of years of human existence.

  Connect the dots. How does that fit better with a young earth? What evidence is there? Walk me through this.
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  Vanderhoven7

  The Encyclopaedia Britannica claims that by the time of Christ, the world’s population was about 300 million. That estimation fits far better with young earth, post Noachian population expectations than it does hundreds of thousands of years of human existence.

  Connect the dots. How does that fit better with a young earth? What evidence is there? Walk me through this.

  The United Nations has no problem connecting dots to estimate population growth. It seems that population expectations are quite predictable, baring major catastophies. Do you know of any major catastophies occurring between 4000 BCE and AD33? If not, and if you connect the dots, world population in AD33 would far exceed 300 million.

  Human Population Growth Creeps Back Up

  New U.N. estimates suggest 9.6 billion people by 2050 Jun 14, 2013 | By Colin Sullivan and ClimateWire

  

  UNITED NATIONS -- Earth's human population is expected to coast upward to 9.6 billion by 2050 and 10.9 billion by 2100, up from 7.2 billion people alive today, a United Nations agency has projected.
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  Viviane

  That's nice, Vanderhoven, but it doesn't connect the dots to a young earth. You still have to show us why it fits.
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  designs

  ...and the villages all over the world that existed pre 5759B.C.E.
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  cofty

  Exponential growth in human population is a modern phenomena.

  Take any other species of animal and the population remains steady, with some fluctuations, from year to year. The same was true of humans for thousands of years. Most died in infancy or childbirth. Simple infections were often fatal. If you have ever had your appendix out or infected teeth removed or had a course of antibiotics or had any one of a myriad of other trivial procedures carried out, consider that in previous times you would be dead now.

  Famine was also a major factor in life-expectancy. Steady population growth has only been a feature since the agricultural and industrial revolutions.

  Extrapolating current population growth rates into history is ridiculous. Getting your science from creationist websites is like getting child protection advice from a priest.

  The evidence that we evolved from a common ancestor of other primates over millions of years is writen in the DNA in every cell in your body. If you will not accept that evidence then please be consistant and refuse jury duty. You may be asked to make life-changing decisions on guilt or innocence based on precisely the same scientific techniques.

  Arguing for a young earth is no different from arguing for a flat earth. Religious dogma is the enemy of truth.
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  sir82

  there could be 10 43 people today

  using the same logic, there could be 10^43 fruit flies, or elephants, or tasmanian devils or [fill in the blank].

  Gosh, do you suppose there are, oh, I don't know, natural constraints which keep populations down?