If you were leaving your partner...

by Sirona 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    Hi Sirona,

    I can understand why you feel so anxious and confused. You are in love with someone who has proven that they don't have YOUR well-being in mind.

    I'm engaged to a man who was dumped by his wife after ten years of marriage, two months after they had bought a house together. He was so devastated that he did not consult a lawyer. (Technically he could have sued her for adultery... she was having an affair w/ another woman.) His situation became unmanageable after she screwed up HER taxes, stole all of the savings, etc.... he is still trying to repair his defaulted school loans and destroyed credit. I am helping him, because I love him.

    Is your ex aware of your dire circumstances? Does he care about your emotional well-being? Will he help repair the damage? If not, then find a way to detach from this man, please... find someone who will be your partner in ALL areas of your reality.

    I hope your family is supportive to you, Sirona... obviously they are providing you with a place to live, but it sounds like you are feeling mighty alone right now. I would imagine you are therefore very vulnerable...

    In any event, I can not imagine you being able to have any type of true intimacy with this person; you must be holding incredible amounts of resentment, and security is going to feel impossible unless he is capable of comprehending your pain and anxiety, and caring enough to help you through it all.

    I truly hope events turn quickly towards the better for you, and please let us know what's up and how you are doing..

    lauralisa

  • SPAZnik
    SPAZnik

    My two cents
    would be
    to take control
    right now
    of your own
    financial situation.

    Don't allow
    any person
    or circumstance
    to 'cripple' you.

    You can do it.

    Take action!

    Empower yourself by finding out your options. If necessary make use of services your community offers. Look into getting free legal help surrounding separation agreements and child support (and/or alimony if that sits well with you). BTW this doesn't have to be a lawyer, it could be a 'mediation' type person (much cheaper).

    Cut costs now (if you haven't already).
    Check into low-cost housing in your area (if applicable).
    Check into food stamps and other food services.
    Get a job. (In or out of the home, whatever applies to you).
    If you have a job, ask for a raise. (think this through first and be prepared to present valid reasons to your boss.)

    These actions don't have to mean that you are giving up on working things out in your relationship. It just diffuses some of the uncertainty, stress, and power that YOU are allowing the other person to wield over your life.

    Aim to see this rough day as an opportunity and a motivator
    a wake-up call if you will to regain control and get some things organized in your life.

    And hugs to you on all the emotional stuff.
    Have a good cry and a good sleep
    then get started on taking your life back
    one day (or one hour) at a time.

    Kick ass on this bad day. You CAN turn it around. Will you?

    SPAZ

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    He doesnt care about possessions. He is irresponsible, really.
    When we lived together he stumbled from job to job and with time off and low wages I think thats WHY we owed money between us. I feel he is responsible for most of what we owed.

    I have had the same job for 6.5 years, I've always paid everything and I always saw to everything. Even now I know that despite the fact that he has money, he's not *in control* as far as money.

    Sirona

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Lauralisa,

    He says he left because he "couldn't cope" with the home situation. He said that he simply had to get away because he wasn't strong enough to deal with it all. I agree with this. I was still trying to work it out, but he refused to see marriage counsellors or anything.

    I wanted to get my own place and make a start toward rebuilding my life, but today that fell through.

    In any event, I can not imagine you being able to have any type of true intimacy with this person; you must be holding incredible amounts of resentment, and security is going to feel impossible unless he is capable of comprehending your pain and anxiety, and caring enough to help you through it all.

    You are right, I am resentful. I'm mostly upset because he doesn't admit his wrongs. He never says "I'm so sorry that I left you and that you lost the house"....its more like "I had to leave, plain and simple and while I was away in Italy I managed to get my head together and I think that helped". Wow, great for him eh?

    He says he felt tremendously guilty about what happened. He says he wants to make me happy again. He offered to let me move in with him and I wouldnt have to pay much toward the house so that I could pay off what I owe. Maybe thats him trying to make it up to me? or maybe he likes the idea of a cook, cleaner, washerwoman, sex-slave, who also gives him money to help him out?

    Spaznik - thanks for the advice. I have been paying off lots of money each month and I've been doing well. However, I simply want my own place and today that was taken away too.

    Aim to see this rough day as an opportunity and a motivator
    a wake-up call if you will to regain control and get some things organized in your life.
    Thats good advice I will try and think like that.

    My choices seem to be:

    Stay where I am for a while and pay things off. (BTW I pay a decent amount of rent to the family - they're not helping in that regard - how does £200 per month grab u?)

    Rent somewhere - my only option would be council accommodation cos I can't afford £350 per month on a private rent. I don't want to do this!!!!

    Move in with him and pay him £100 per month, and run the risk of it not working out. Maybe before that could happen I'd need to express how I really feel about the whole money thing.

    Sirona

  • Silverleaf
    Silverleaf

    Sirona,

    If you love him and you believe that he loves you then sit down with him and tell him in complete honesty that you're in the position you're in now because of him and that you can't trust him completely until you're in a position where he can't do that to you again. Tell him if he really wants you back he's going to have to help you fix what he destroyed and that you'd like to see a lawyer about how to handle it in a way that won't leave either one of you broke again. If he doesn't accept that, then run as far and as fast as you can in the other direction and learn to live without him - chances are in that case you will be much happier in the future without him.

    I wish you the best and I hope you can work it out.

    Silverleaf

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Silverleaf,

    I think that you are right. The only way to go now is to express whats inside. Like you say, he should understand.

    Sirona

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    There are a couple of books I recommend for you:
    "Men who Hate Women, and the Women who Love Them" (can't recall the author)

    "Self Matters" by Phil McGraw (helps you to see what YOU need and how to get it)

    This guy is not good for you, but I can understand why you are together again. Listen to that 'gut' feeling you know you have, deep inside.

    Marilyn (aka Mulan)
    "No one can take advantage of you, without your permission." Ann Landers

  • jukief
    jukief

    Sirona, don't give up hope. Let me tell you what happened to me.

    I was married to a real bastard; married him at age 17 (like a typical JW) and he was domineering, selfish, unloving, and emotionally abusive. By the time I was nearing 30, I was at the end of my rope. I knew I couldn't live with that man any longer, but I had two young children and had never worked. Fortunately, I got a job and that gave me the courage to leave, because I realized I *could* support myself and my children.

    He made it extremely hard to leave, though, and in the end I decided that *nothing* was worth staying. I left him with the house, our business (a sideline in addition to his regular job that brought in quite a bit of money), half our possessions, and one of the two cars. I had absolutely nothing. I was making $4.75 an hour, had no benefits, was paying rent, and struggling to feed and clothe two kids. It was rough as hell.

    I ended up going to school. That was difficult, too, but I qualified for financial aid. I also had to take out student loans--$18,000 total--which was a lot of money back in the 80s. I was poor as a church mouse the whole time I was in college, and by my last year in college I'd married my second husband, who turned out to be a total loser. I ended up supporting him, too, even while I was still in college. After I graduated, we bought a house (which I paid for). When we eventually broke up, he got half the equity (we sold the house) and we split our belongings down the middle. Once again, I owned a small business with this husband, which I had paid for myself. He got the business when we split up. My friends were horrified. They couldn't understand why I'd let him have half the equity and a business I paid for. But I was afraid that if we went to court, I'd end up having to pay him alimony!! Pretty screwed up, huh?

    My half of the equity lasted nine months--that's how long it took me to find a job after I moved to another state. So I was starting out again with absolutely nothing.

    Flash forward to today. I'm happily remarried, live in a lovely house, have plenty of money. And my first husband? He still lives in the same house (it's not much, believe me). He started a business for which he's in hawk up to his eyeballs. Even then, he's barely making enough to pay his overhead. He has virtually no money to live on. As you can see, the tables have really turned.

    I don't have a single regret that I left those marriages, especially the first one, with nothing. What I have now I've earned myself, the hard way. And I'm proud of that. You might have some rough years ahead, but in the end you'll come out just fine, and you'll be a stronger person for it.

    My husband, Alan, lost a LOT of money when he got divorced. He'd been married for nearly 20 years, and she got 75% of their net worth, including the house. Plus, he had to pay her $1600 a month for alimony and child support for one child. When we met, we were both starting out again, and Alan had big debts from his first marriage. But within just a few years, the circumstances had changed. We're doing very well financially. Alan's daughter has come to live with us and we no longer pay alimony and child support. We paid all of Alan's debts off. At first, Alan was really unhappy about his financial situation and the way his ex-wife bled him dry. But it all turned out for the best in the long run. And I think it will turn out fine for you, too. Just take it one day at a time, and concentrate on the future. You can do amazing things with your life, even if it takes a while. Two years might seem like a long time to you right now, but it will pass more quickly than you could imagine. I left my first marriage in 1984, and here it is now 2002. I can't believe how quickly those years went by, even the five difficult years I was in school.

    Good luck to you. Hang in there, and keep your chin up.

    Julie F

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Mulan,
    Its so difficult to walk away from him. I keep wondering if *I'm* the silly one, and if he's a fantastic person after all. He does have a good heart.

    Maybe he would never do the same thing again?

    Sirona

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    Julie,

    Wow you went through a lot!

    He isn't abusive, he is actually a really good "boyfriend" at the moment. He treats me nicely. The thing that worries me is that he cant manage his own finances and I'm afraid if I share somewhere with him that we'll end up in trouble again. Then I'd be the scapegoat cos if the going got tough, he'd leave again.

    I'm doing a degree in psychology part-time...but that had to be put on hold this february when I was diagnosed with skin cancer. The cancer is gone (I hope...my glands are up and if they don't go down by June 11 then I've got to have a gland biopsy) but I can only start college again in October. The course is a long one - another 3 years to go.

    My career is OK and I earn OK money, but I'm paying out a lot every month. All I need is a little lottery win!!

    Anyway, I know I'm capable of being independent, but when I just feel like I'm getting somewhere a barrier comes up.

    Sirona

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