Watchtower V's apostates who is winning?

by sleepy 13 Replies latest jw friends

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  Scully

  Don't forget that the WTS's way of showing an "increase" are tactics like including 15-minute publishers. That's going to boost the number of "publishers", but watch for the average number of hours decrease at the same time.

  Additionally, the number of Bible Studies and baptisms per capita is going to decrease, simply because you've got all these extra 15-minute publishers included in the mix.

  The WTS is using the 15-minute publisher "provision" as a means to improve their appearance statistically to the R&F. Overall, however, I seriously doubt it will have a profound effect on literature placements, Bible Studies, baptisms etc.

  Another thing they may not have taken into consideration is the fact that this move could actually backfire on them. How many 5-hour publishers are now going to be content with the 15-minute minimum, citing physical malady as their reason for "slowing down"?

  The WTS can only "win" by changing the criteria for qualification as an active publisher and fudging the statistics. It will give the illusion to the R&F that they are continuing to experience an "increase" when in fact they are not. That's not really "winning", IMNSHO.

  Love, Scully
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  Grunt

  Metatron,
  I see it as just the opposite. For years the small cult known as Jehovah's Witnesses were so obscure as to only gain attention in times of war when their refusal to salute a flag rankled, or on Saturday mornings when trying to sleep in and their persistent knock spoiled it. Now they have grown into a still small, but large enough to be noticed cult and like a termite infestation that has begun to do some damage, they demand attention. Not much, just a little spray of truth to expose them to the light which, like the termites, they cannot abide. Luckily it happened just as the internet was there to help spotlight them.
  I see them as losing. They are losing because their real beliefs are being exposed and they will not bear close examination. They have a caste system when caste systems are on the way out. They are losing because they are out of step with reality and technology and can only demand that the technology that exposes them not be used. Banned in Boston, was the best way to make sure a book was read. Stay off the internet is about the same. The main reason they are losing though, is because their children see through them. Thank god. Think about your family, how many are still zealots? How many kids are? There lies the downfall of the Tower. Another reason for their fall will be the enemies they have made. I would love to bulldoze Bethel to rubble and then use it as gravel for a septic tank. The cold hatred I and so many others harbor for this arrogant group of hypocrites should stand as some sort of gauge as to their future. Real empires have been torn down by people with no less desire to see them fall than mine and many others here towards this sham religion, this paper tiger, this victimizer of children and the vulnerable, this doomed cult. It will follow the shakers into oblivion, only the Witnesses will leave no good behind, not even their furniture. Their most permanent markers will be the families torn apart by their lies and narrow minds, as well as the gravestones of the children and others who died uselessly following their sage advice.
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  Beans

  I think JR.Brown is The Dr.Evil of the Watchtower!

  WHO IS WINNING?

  That all depends who you ask, see we are only Apostates to THEM as defined by THEM!

  It is the Internet that is the true Apostate, as it keeps bringing the information that the general Dub that is affraid to look at in the KH. Now if the Watchtower had have been smart they would have controlled it a long time ago by implimenting that it was another EVOLUTION!

  Over the next 10-15 years there will be a decline in publishers as many will be informed and dissapointed by previous prophecies!

  Beans
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  simplesally

  Don't forget, just because the amount of hours turned in for public preaching might decline here in the USA, that doesn't necessarily mean that the dedicated hours to WTS are decreasing.

  The CO said at lunch at his last visit that I was at, that the average was down, but he talked with the Branch about it since he was the head of RBC. He said the brothers are working so hard on quickly built halls, assembly halls and the like (and they use so many of the same brothers over and over who are reliable) and they don't get to count their time.

  Brothers who are pioneers and work on projects for COs and DC parts (like the drama, etc) or if they work on the talks the COs have to give, they get a "credit" off their time for the year. So even tho they didn't make their goal of 70 for the month (I forget the yearly requirement) they get to show the credit and not be removed.