Questions From Readers (w67, 6/15, p383) :How old was Abel when he died? (page 2)

88JM

Tricky getting enough protein on a veggie diet too.

Apognophos

I couldn't possibly be afraid of Cain if he looked like that. No wonder Abel never saw it coming.

P.S. What is Cain holding behind his back?

Terry

I couldn't possibly be afraid of Cain if he looked like that. No wonder Abel never saw it coming.

P.S. What is Cain holding behind his back?

Cain is holding the Watch Tower article against oral sex.

jam

"It is possible then, that Abel may have been as much as

A hundred years old at the time of his martyrdom". WT67

He looked not a day over 18, I would love to know their

diet.. I could make a fortune. Look a hundred years younger

with my miracle diet.

So dumb, if you thought Abel was around 100 years old, a

middle age guy not a damn 20 year old....

Since Christ Jesus spoke of Abel as living at “the founding of the world,” this would indicate that the reference is to the world of ransomable mankind that came into existence after children were born to Adam and Eve. (Lu 11:48-51) Abel’s name would evidently be the first one recorded on that symbolic scroll.

WT conditions their answers

*** w67 6/15 p. 383 Questions From Readers ***

The Bible account does not give us his exact age at the time of his murder, but his approximate agecan be deduced. Since the Bible records nothing in the way of history between the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden and their producing of their first two sons, Cain and Abel, it is reasonable to conclude that the boys were born within the space of a few years after their parents’ fall into sin.

(just like the WTS "deduced" at first that Eve was created when Adam was 30 and later adjusted that to 1 year after Adam was created)

Well, the third recorded son of Adam and his wife Eve was born shortly after Abel’s death and when Adam was 130 years of age. (Gen. 5:3) At the time of Seth’s birth Eve said: “God has appointed another seed in place of Abel, because Cain killed him.” (Gen. 4:25) It is not at all likely that Eve would have said this if a great many years had intervened; she evidently desired a son to replace the murdered Abel, and so the birth of Seth must have occurred shortly after Abel’s death. It is possible, then, that Abel may have been as much as a hundred years old at the time of his martyrdom.

Julia Orwell

Yeah, like you can just replace one kid with another. Whoever wrote this didn't have kids or know anyone who had kids. Evidently.

blondie

The WTS explains that after the "prophecy" in Gen 3:15, that Eve thought that Cain was the fulfillment of the seed. The WTS says he was not but evidently Seth provided to be the forefather of the Jews and thus Jesus.

*** it-1 p. 386 Cain ***

Following the birth of Cain, Eve said: “I have produced a man with the aid of Jehovah.” (Ge 4:1) Did she have in mind that she might be the foretold woman who would produce the seed by means of which deliverance would come? (Ge 3:15) If so, she was greatly mistaken. However, she could validly say that Cain was produced “with the aid of Jehovah” because God had not taken away the reproductive powers of sinful Adam and Eve and because, when passing judgment on her, God had said that she would “bring forth children,” though it would be with birth pangs.—Ge 3:16.

*** it-1 p. 908 Genealogy ***

From the Flood to Abraham. The line of Noah’s son Shem, who received Noah’s blessing, brought forth Abram (Abraham), “Jehovah’s friend.” (Jas 2:23) This genealogy, along with the above-mentioned pre-Flood one, constitutes the sole means for establishing the chronology of man’s history down to Abraham. In the pre-Flood list the record runs through the line of Seth, and in the post-Flood list, through Shem. It consistently states the time from a man’s birth to the birth of his son. (Ge 11:10-24, 32; 12:4)

(Notice th is convoluted non-scriptural rant)

*** po chap. 6 pp. 65-66 pars. 3-5 Human Life Outside Paradise Until the Deluge ***

3 In the Hebrew Bible, the two books of Chronicles are listed last, and not the prophetic book of Malachi. Now, if we turn to the first book of Chronicles we notice that it opens up with a line of ten generations after Adam, as follows: “Adam, [1] Seth, [2] Enosh, [3] Kenan, [4] Mahalalel, [5] Jared, [6] Enoch, [7] Methuselah, [8] Lamech, [9] Noah, [10] Shem, Ham and Japheth.” (1 Chronicles 1:1-4) Seth was not the firstborn son of Adam outside the Paradise of Pleasure. Cain was, and Abel was the next-named son of Adam and Eve. (Genesis 4:1-5) Why, then, was Seth made the one to be listed in the line of descent down to Noah?

4 Did Jehovah God plan it that way? No, for that would mean that God planned that Cain should murder his younger brother Abel and thus disqualify himself from being the one through whom mankind today could trace its descent. Neither did God plan that, by foul murder, Abel should be cut off prematurely before having the needed offspring and that thus Seth should be substituted for him. (Genesis 4:25) That God did not plan the murdering of Abel in order to make room for Seth is evident from the warning that God gave to Cain that he might not fall victim to gross sin because of resenting it that his offering to God had been rejected but his brother Abel’s sacrifice had been accepted.—Genesis 4:6, 7.

5 No, Jehovah God did not plan it that way, but it took a long time before there was born a son of Adam through whom the line of descent would run down clear to the birth of the promised “seed,” the Messiah, in the flesh. This lateness of beginning the favored line of descent from Adam is shown in Genesis 5:3, where we read: “And Adam lived on for a hundred and thirty years. Then he became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and called his name Seth.”

Terry

What effect did NOT PRODUCING A SON for so long have on the multiplying of the population from just 2 people to the large populations in all the world in real history?

It is worthy pausing to reflect . . .

How many children could each daughter have and how icky is it to have your brother sexing you up like that?

What lousy foresight Jehovah seems to have possessed!

sd-7

What effect did NOT PRODUCING A SON for so long have on the multiplying of the population from just 2 people to the large populations in all the world in real history?

We would have to assume the Bible just doesn't mention every child--maybe Eve had nothing but girls for a few decades until Seth was born? Even if that was the case, it does create some major problems for population growth, especially if no one was taking multiple wives.

--sd-7

Questions From Readers (w67, 6/15, p383) :How old was Abel when he died?

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