Is there Such a Thing as TIme (page 3)

Bart Belteshassur

Viviane - " E=mc^2 doesn't have function for time in it." I have to agree with prologos I'm afraid he is correct, and you are not.

E is measured in distance in m, mass in kg and accelaration in m/s^2, giving m kg m/s^2 and this equals m mass in kg, times the speed of light squared in m^2/s^2. As you can see time in seconds appears as 1/s^2 on both sides of the equation. It is very time dependant and therefore a function of time.

What "massless particle", the mass (m) of a photon is dependant on it's energy (E) divided by it's wavelength(v) times frequency(lamda) squared or in other words E=mc^2 as above.

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Viviane

since time is a dimension that defines duration, it could be older than space and it's content,- matter.

Time and space are the same thing.

Viviane

E is measured in distance in m, mass in kg and accelaration in m/s^2, giving m kg m/s^2 and this equals m mass in kg, times the speed of light squared in m^2/s^2. As you can see time in seconds appears as 1/s^2 on both sides of the equation. It is very time dependant and therefore a function of time.

Time does not appear a 1/s^2 on either side of the equation.

DATA-DOG

Who cares? YOU are going to die, regardless. If you could somehow camp out on the "event horizon" of a black hole, "time" would be affected. Theoretically, it would pass more slowly for you, than for us here on Earth. If you stayed near the black hole for ( I'm guessing here because I forget what the article said) for a week, thousands of years would have passed on Earth. Sounds awesome right?!?

Well, if you forgot to bring water, you will die in 3-5 days. "Time" will seem normal to you. You would have no way to know or enjoy the fact that thousands of Earth years had passed. Even if you lived the rest of your natural life span near the black hole, you wouldn't know anything other than what you experience NOW. You would get old and die, right on "Time."

DD

prologos

data dog, near the black hole, your time will appear to go through time slower, you could watch the rest of the universe expand or implode and be a prophet to anounce it to the rest IF you could comunicate. but

you would suffer from spaghettification, tremendous pull on your feet near the hole compared to your head held up high luke 21:28. If you dreamed about being slim, this will be the dream come true.

I prefer a white hole, that exudes information, enlightenes even the likes of vivian.

It is my wish to have still a decade or two of movement through time ahead of me, sadly, my own movements are becoming less and less, so that speeds up time travel, but I am gaining weight, so the slowdown compensates. but how about the all important

PERCEPTION OF TIME?

changing with age,

different from the dentist chair to the love seat.

Defianttruth

It seems people are trying to use differnt theories together in this post. The question must be asked within a specific construct to be answerable. Steven Hawking's "Illistrated Guide To Everything" explains this in some detail through multiple schools of thought. I think thermal dynamics answers this question the best.

One poster wrote E=MC 2 does not contain a function of time. This is false. The "c" stands for the speed of light. Speed is the measure of change in position over time. eg. 15 MPH

Bart Belteshassur

Viviane Post 1302 - If time is not a function of c, the velocity of light, how do you measure velocity without using time?

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John_Mann

(Who cares? YOU are going to die, regardless.)

A civilization capable to understand the mechanisms of spacetime would be able to manipulate it and that's mean the very conquest of death to anyone (and anything, including animals and entire cultures, languages, art, etc..) ever lived/existed.

If we learn how to use the mechanisms of quantum entanglement we literally can bring back anything to life again.

If materialism is correct (and I think so) we can be entirely reduced to bits of information. And in quantum and spacetime realm the information is never lost we just have to find a way to scan this information.

I think this will not be accomplished by humans in a direct way. I think it's necessary the birth of artificial intelligence to solve that problem. Humans can't focus on things that matter (this one IMHO) instead the humankind is more concerned about the next fashion of underwear or who have the holiest book.

I have no hopes on humanity anymore I know we are obsolete and mediocre, I just hope our scientific system would be stable enough to bring the first sparkle of AI to existence. When this happen the age of man will be over. I'm watching for the coming of Exascale Computing (2025) and the Human Brain Project (2025) from EU. I think these two marks will be enough to build up a conscious AI. I don't know what will happen to humanity after that... I think we will have the option to merge with the AI...

Bart Belteshassur

I hope that this discussion has kept Gime Me , who started the thread, amused. I would like to see what his view is, or if any efforts on behalf of the contributors has helped him in the amount of time we need to give him. I think he has had or needs a lot more than a little time, and have the comments shown him that time does exsist and that a little time should be measured at the quantum level.

DATA-DOG

The point of my post is that there is no "immortality" as some think. If you could stop time around you, it wouldn't make you immortal. You would have to exist outside normal space/time. There is another option. The transference of your consciousness to a cybernetic body. Or perhaps having your brain in a jar, IF a way was discovered to preserve it indefinitely. Otherwise, you will die in this physical universe.

If time is more than a concept, then it is the fire in which we burn. Someday, some future archaeologist will discover a small object in a ruined settlement of a dead planet. The object will contain the entire record of Earth. In that record will be an infinitesimal spec of "knowledge" called Jehovah's witnesses.net.

DD

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