Kate. Best wishes for your birthday celebrations..take care
Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!
by exWTslave 130 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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exWTslave
See the BAUTY of saying things pleasantly—we have to learn from those who believe in God such as Ruby456; jgnat and KateWild. This shows we have to” invent God if he doesn’t exist!” There is an automatic serenity in their expressions!
It's sad when people stop believing in the existence of God, automatically their humaneness disappear.
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MadGiant
"When people stop believing in the existence of God, automatically their humaneness disappear." - ex
Philosophy my ass. With all due respect, you don't have critical thinking skills. You are still trap inside the cult.
What about the secular humanist, Buddhists, Hinduism, Jain, Confucian & Taoist. These groups or religions treat gods as metaphors and/or not really existing. This is no different from treating the pagan stories as metaphors rather than real events, something that is even more common. If a pagan doesn’t believe that the gods in their tradition are real, then they will probably be an atheist. Some may eschew this label, but others are comfortable with it and openly identify as pagan atheists (or atheistic pagans).
Ismael
I think you are entitle to a formal apology from your former university, as well as full refund from tuition and compensation for wasted time.
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exWTslave
MadGiant, it seems you did not read first part of what I wrote:
See the BAUTY of saying things pleasantly—we have to learn from those who believe in God such as Ruby456 ; jgnat and KateWild . This shows we have to” invent God if he doesn’t exist!” There is an automatic serenity in their expressions!
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jgnat
"When people stop believing in the existence of God, automatically their humaneness disappear." - ex
Philosophy my ass. Isn't training in logic part of the curriculum in philosophy? Just because you bandy a few compliments about, it doesn't automatically follow that athiests are missing the serenity you attribute to us.
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exWTslave
jgnat,
Serenity is something we cannnot mask with its opposite. What comes out is the expression of what is within. God is the source of all goodness. When one REALLY believes in Him (not like how biblical David went about), there will be a transmission of that goodness to the believer. Whoever speaks to such a believer or whoever has an interaction with him would feel like he is in heaven. That is the power of the real belief in God.
Conversely, No belief in God, means there is deep sadness within arising from having no real purpose in life. That sadness gives him pain. This pain will be transmitted to the people around him knowingly or unknowingly. Can't help. That is the inevitable outcome of having no belief in the existence of God.
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MadGiant
"Conversely, No belief in God, means there is deep sadness within arising from having no real purpose in life. That sadness gives him pain. This pain will be transmitted to the people around him knowingly or unknowingly. Can't help. That is the inevitable outcome of having no belief in the existence of God." - ex
Philosophy of religion, examines religion from the outside, attempting to employ logic, reason and research to understand religion on a more humanistic and scientific level without assuming the truth of any particular god or religion.
Philosophy of religion points to restrict itself to assumptions which can be agreed upon by people of any religion or none, and then seeks to analyze and evaluate religious beliefs from that basis. Leading philosophers may be considered authoritative but disagreement should be satisfactory provided the critic has sound arguments.
Philosophy of religion criticises religion when this is reasonable though the two are not necessarily opposed. Even so, the two disciplines overlap in the area of natural theology, which refers to attempts to demonstrate the truth of particular religious doctrines from a neutral basis.
Some of the major questions addressed by philosophy of religion include:
Does God (or gods) exist?
Is the concept of 'God' coherent?
Is the existence of evil a problem for the existence of God?
Are the specific doctrines of various religions, such as the Christian Trinity, coherent?
Are any of the various philosophical arguments which have been proposed to prove or disprove the existence of God valid?
Is a life after death possible? And if so, are there any serious reasons to believe there is one?
Is religious faith valid?
Can religious doctrines properly be considered basic beliefs, as argued for instance by Alvin Plantinga?
Is it permissible to believe in religious doctrines on the basis of pragmatic considerations? (Pascal's wager, William James' will to believe)
Can ethics be defined in terms of God's nature or commands, and are there any logical problems in such a definition?Do you take into account any or all of these questions when you give a lecture?
Philosophy is divided into branches. Metaphysics is the study of the nature of reality, Epistemology is concerned with the nature and scope of knowledge, and whether knowledge is possible. Ethics, or "moral philosophy", is concerned primarily with the question of the best way to live, Meta-ethics concerns the nature of ethical thought, comparison of various ethical systems.
Ethics is also associated with the idea of morality. Aesthetics is concerned with art, taste and the psychology behind beauty, Political philosophy is the normative study of government and the relationship of individuals, Logic is the study of valid argument forms. Philosophy of mind deals with the nature of the mind and its relationship to the body, Philosophy of religion is a branch of philosophy that asks questions about religion. Philosophy of language is the philosophical study of the nature of language.
With one is your branch? You look like someone whose job title is "philosopher" but had been exposed to a lot of theology, or maybe a theologian taking cover and claiming to be a philosopher. Sorry, what are you?
Ismael
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Philosophy my ass. Isn't training in logic part of the curriculum in philosophy? Just because you bandy a few compliments about, it doesn't automatically follow that athiests are missing the serenity you attribute to us.
Jgnat,
Always cutting straight to the point. Please let me doff my cap to you! Not that I have either a cap to doff or a handy martini!
The woo is strong in this one indeed.