by EA916 74 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
iwasblind - "but now you see" presumably?
if these fishermen were such geniuses to understand the whole of the written word at the time and contort it to fit Jesus life - that would be a miracle in itself.
They didn't. The gospels were written many years after the events they describe by educated Jews who never met Jesus. I could find hundreds of parallels in Shakespeare pointing to Prince Charles. It's a miracle!
Cofty: The gospels were written many years after the events they describe by educated Jews who never met Jesus.
Do you have a first century source for you claim?
Why would I need a 1st C source?
If I had a book that claims to be written in 1939 that mentions the Dunkirk evacuation I would know it was a fraud.
Please do some research on the gospels. Nobody seriously believes they were written by the apostles.
Just asking.
Do you have a first century source for you claim?
The writings themselves are the source of that knowledge.
Cofty - the may have been written by different people, but the teachings came mainly from the apostles and Paul. Most of the apostles were unlettered. So if the writings are false, explain how it circulated in a non-internet society. It is noted by many scolars that you could not preach the resurrection of Jesus to such a degree if it were a lie in those times.
How did this man (Jesus) born of a poor family "pull this off". Birth place, silver coins...Impossible. (I will come back with specifics)
Yes you could find writings that apply to Prince Charles, but you could not find some 40 books written over such a period of time that could - with every parallel pointing to him. This is what I am saying about cherry picking. I could even find a prophecy applying to me I am sure maybe the wicked slave :-). But anyway look at the Hebrew writings as a whole and see.
I will come back but after the weekend, I am unfortunately caught up the weekend, to answer Viviane also with specific scriptures that relate to Jesus.
Viviane: The writings themselves are the source of that knowledge.
Very good.
Your answer was better than Cofty's.
Cofty - the may have been written by different people, but the teachings came mainly from the apostles and Paul. Most of the apostles were unlettered.
What is your proof of that? The gospels contain stories and ideas that are never mentioned by Paul. In fact, he shows zero knowledge of the Jesus of the gospels. Very odd if he was the source of those teachings.
So if the writings are false, explain how it circulated in a non-internet society. It is noted by many scolars that you could not preach the resurrection of Jesus to such a degree if it were a lie in those times.
How did Zeus and Thor get to be well known in pre-internet times? Why do you associate the truth of an argument with how widely it was circulated? Also, who are these scholars and which of their works do you refer to?
Yes you could find writings that apply to Prince Charles, but you could not find some 40 books written over such a period of time that could - with every parallel pointing to him.
You don't have that.You have claims of that, but when examined, the writings clearly are not about Jesus or are just plan wrong.
Your answer was better than Cofty's.
Cofty's answer is excellent. You've not demonstrated why think your question is relevant.
Viviane: Cofty's answer is excellent.
In my opinion, your answer was much more pointed, it addressed the first century question, thus it is a better answer.
You've not demonstrated why think your question is relevant.
I ask a question. Relevance is something you look for not me.
