Love believes all things... Comment by a "Duke and Star"!! Today's WT!!

by DATA-DOG 18 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  DATA-DOG

  Love believes all things. What did Paul mean?? He meant that if we love Jehovah, we believe what we read in the WT magazine. Whatever we read is true. We would never dissect what the Slave tells us. We would never read a WT lesson and say that it was in error, or doubt what we read. We didnt learn "the truth" on are own, through independent sources. We didn't learn the name Jehovah on our own. We can't discern those things without the SLAVE. That would disrespectful of " The Channel" and of Jehovah. [ Guess who this Duke was counseling from his throne, err chair?]

  Dissect: synonyms- analyze, study, examine, scrutinize. NEVER DO THOSE THINGS OR NOTICE IS SOMETHING IS WRONG. Yes, the FDS imperfect, but YOU cannot say that.

  In review. It is impossible that any of you discerned that the FDS, domestics, belongings, organ transplant, or Superior Authorities ideas were in error through personal study. You must be imagining that you did, or you must be lying. ONLY the SLAVE can do that. Nevermind that CTR, a non-FDS came up with the core doctrines of the JW religion.

  Is anything more dangerous than religious "authorities" that cannot even be respectfully questioned? These people worship the GOVERNING BODY and the ORGANIZATION. There is no doubt about it. Forget about reasoning with these men, they are gone.

  DD
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  DATA-DOG

  Another "Star" commented that we should always believe the ORG, because it's not corrupt and pretending to be something it's not. Methinks the proverbial shit might be hitting the fan...

  DD
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  We would never read a WT lesson and say that it was in error, or doubt what we read

  So, the "ancient worthies" were resurrected in 1925 and Abraham is the ruler of New York City? And Armageddon came in 1914? Good to know those things came true just as WT said they would. I never doubted for a moment.
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  factfinder

  I am so glad I am out of that cult!
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  millie210

  Well the "star" isnt biting the hand that gave him his "stardom" I guess.

  As has been said on so many threads in so many ways: they wouldnt be harping on this if it wasnt a problem!
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  leaving_quietly

  Fortunately, no such comment was made like that at our KH today. But, the comment in the WT about "believes all things" states this:

  "Love "believes all things" in God's Word and makes us grateful for the spiritual food we receive. Love "hopes all things" recorded in the Bible and prompts us to give others reasons for our hope."

  On the surface, this seems all well and good. However, when Paul wrote those things, he surely did not have in mind God's Word, the Bible, because IT DID NOT EXIST THEN!!!!!
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  blondie

  (1 John 4:1) 4 Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

  If this was true in the 1st century when all were anointed and many had seen and talked to Jesus, how much more today, 2000 years later.

  *** w10 9/1 pp. 12-13 Guard Against Being Deceived ***

  Rather than being deceived by what is “falsely called ‘knowledge,’” use God’s Word to establish the truth. (1 Timothy 6:20, 21) Be like the noble-minded men and women whom the apostle Paul preached to in Beroea. They “received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind.” Not only were they keenly believing what the apostle Paul taught them but they were also “carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.”—Acts 17:11.

  You have nothing to fear from examining your beliefs in this way. In fact, the Bible encourages you to “make sure of all things” before accepting them as true. (1 Thessalonians 5:21) Toward the end of the first century C.E., the apostle John urged his fellow Christians: “Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God.” (1 John 4:1) Yes, even though a certain religious teaching seems to be “inspired”—or to come from God—it is still the course of wisdom to examine the Scriptures to make sure before accepting it as true.—John 8:31, 32.
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  Paris

  If this was true in the 1st century when all were anointed- Blondie

  I have news, its the same as it was in the first Century Blondie. Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one hope, one baptism . Anointed means you have the Holy Spirit poured out on you and dwelling in you, it does not mean the Watchtower false doctrine of "anointed" and yet many on this forum although continually claiming they are free from the WT still believe these false doctrines. Why? There are not two classes, there is no "organization" with a "sole channel" Its a lie Blondie. There are no "classes". Jesus never talked about any such thing. The "other sheep not of this fold" referred to the Gentiles and they become one flock with the Jews.

  Domestics ? These are WT terms. Anointed and Domestics. These are false doctrines made up by the WT. The term comes from a parable where there are 3 servants who are given bags of gold or "talents" and two of them use what they are given wisely and one burys his in the ground. The parable is not about who rules over who, its about what you do with what you have been given and its about stewardship and responsibility towards the household of God or the Body of Christ , which is everyone who believes, not some limited number referred to as "the anointed" We are ALL anointed, all believers are anointed with the same amount of holy spirit and there are no "classes". Why keep referring to these stale old WT falshoods? As if they exist, they do not.
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  DATA-DOG

  We know they do not exist. We mention them to make the absurdity of the WTBTS all the more obvious. You may be interested in reading this thread:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/275576/1/Active-JWs-can-you-defend-THE-TRUTH#.U_HlR9m9K0c

  DD
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  Pistoff

  The current writers of the WT continue with their uninterrupted streak of the worst writing in their history.

  In the above quoted paragraph, they actuall use 1 Cor. 13 to discourage anyone questioning them; this application is glaringly out of context.

  Here is the complete chapter:

  13 If I speak in the tongues [ a ] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, [ b ] but do not have love, I gain nothing.

  4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

  8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

  13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

  (NIV)

  This is about relationships, and the value of love OVER dogma, the importance of a person's character, rather than their spiritual proclamations.

  It is placed in the middle of Paul's monologue about the importance of prophesy vs speaking in tongues, in chap's 12 and 14; if you read those two chapters, you see how out of place and incongruous the WT's application is. Where does the WT ever deal with speaking in tongues, or prophesying, in this article, or how the chapter about love might fit to our modern day? Where is the individual in the WT article? In 1 Cor 12, 13 and 14, Paul is talking about the individual choices about prophesy, love and tongues, and in 13 he points to the importance of love over other spiritual gifts, because they pass away and love will not.

  (Ironically, this is the best application of the chapter on love; what witnesses believe, ie, their 'prophesy and tongues', changes, but if there is love in the congregation, the congregation will survive. Does the WT choose to go there? Nope.)

  It is one of the most beautiful chapters in the bible, often quoted, but this is the first time I have seen it used as a club to keep people from questioning.

  Once again the writers of the WT show not only their agenda, but a very poor understanding of scripture.