Dissociated family excluded from funeral services

by Pardus 21 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  greven

  it is the official policy!!! there was an article in the WT of june or juli questions of "readers" and that said pretty much the same.

  they are gonna be more mainstream? don`t make me laugh!!!!

  gggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

  greven

  "Fear is strange soil. Mainly it grows obedience like corn, which grows in rows and makes weeding easy. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground."
  -from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett-
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  D8TA

  My nephew is a big Star Trek fan, I'm not. I've seen some of the movies...errr, actually just two. So my nephew brought over a movie a few days ago to share called Star Trek: First Contact. Yep, the one with the "borg" in it.

  There was a this underlying theme of "revenge is really not a good course" but...I...uhh...skpped that message...*cough* *cough*

  There was a quote that Cpt. Jean Luc Picard had said that kinda got me laughing with a perspective I have. No, it wasn't the Moby Dick reference either. (though, that one did kinda did give me a self reflection thought).

  Anywho..with my current family situation vs. WTBTS I share this quote:

  "No! We've made too many compromises already, too many retreats. They Invade our space and we fall back, they assimilate entire worlds and we fall back, not again, the line must be drawn here! This far no further! And I will make them PAY for what they've done!"

  D8TA
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  avengers

  Excellent quote D8TA.
  And for Pardus. I guess it seems like it depends what mood the elders are in. I've seen similar here in Holland. Sometimes allowed. Sometimes only if you don't speak.
  I wonder if Russell knew what he was doing when he created this screwed up religion.
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  ozziepost

  G'day Avengers,

  I think we should recognise that Russell didn't start the JW religion. That claim should be attributed to Joe Ratherflawed. Russell himself decried the establishing of a separate 'religion'. It was Joe who seized control of Russell's WTBTS and, in order to distance himself from Russell, adopted the name for the Society's adherents of "Jehovah's Witnesses".

  Sorry if I'm being a bit 'picky' but I think it's worth remembering that Joe Ratherflawed created an organiastion that, in many ways, reflected his own megolamania.

  BTW how's things in Holland? We're always interested in hearing about developments in the borg's 'Orange' branch.

  Cheers,
  Ozzie

  "If our hopes for peace are placed in the hands of imperfect people, they are bound to evaporate."

  
  - Ron Hutchcraft Surviving the Storms of Stress
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  Will Power

  I'll never forget my first WatchTower funeral.
  It wasn't in a KH because he wasn't a baptized member, but the elder conducting the infomercial, was so cold, distant and robotlike. I could tell by the faces in the audience [hardly any JWs] that these friends, co-workers, relatives were shocked to say the least. I almost got up to say something on his behalf. He was a heck of a guy. Reflecting on a person's life not only makes you appreciate the good in people but helps you to set your own goals, to love, help others, etc. Its got nothing to do with elevating to a god level or whatever that crap is that they use as an excuse.
  I think they do themselves a gross injustice.
  What else is new?

  Another experience was when my opinion as a worldly was asked for. Did I think is was improper for someone who was not invited to show up at a funeral anyway? Not knowing anything of course, I was shocked!
  Invitation only, being just on the other side of the cut off line, but realizing you were the only one cut? Yep I was no help in that situation. Was this person a child molester?adulterer?fornicator?or a smoker? or someone who questions 607bc?
  I hope my "you're kidding" response was taken as intended.
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  borgfree

  Hi Pardus, you asked:

  Has anyone had similar experiences?

  Yes, I have. My oldest sister died last fall, she had eloped with a soldier during the second world war and stopped associating with the witnesses, by her husbands demand. She was never df'ed or da'ed, they just left her alone.

  At the viewing and funeral my relatives came, almost all JWs, they ignored me, as I was one side of the room, and they of course, used the other side of the room. My sisters children tried to be fair to both me and the JW family. They would first visit with one side for a while and then the other. I was just one person so of course it was a little, understandably, unbalanced.

  The same general behavior happened at the hospital before she died.

  In the past several years I have had two (maybe more) uncles die, one was my mothers brother (claimed to be annointed) and one was my fathers brother (never a JW) In both cases, since almost all of my family are JWs, my JW family were contacted. In both cases, I was not told. I learned about the the non-JW uncle from the newspaper, after the funeral was over.

  You think these things are bad? I could tell of much worse. So in answer to your question, yes, these things do definately happen.

  Borgfree
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  worf

  D8TA,

  I love that quote and I also think about it in relation to all the injustices that I and others have experienced at the hands of the wts.
  The line is drawn. And they will pay.

  worf
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  Tinkerbell4125

  I would have co-cocked that bastard right between the eyes.
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  sf

  {{{HUGS 4u}}}

  When my mom 'goes', I WILL BE THERE.

  They will have to shoot on sight to get me out of there.

  I will have a reporter with me as well (posing as a supporting friend with hidden video and audio going full steam), to document EVERYTHING.

  Please do not allow these MERE MORTAL MEN and WOMEN to dictate who can and cannot be at one's memorial services and/ or funeral.

  Defy them! Go boldly!! Stare right into their eyes and tell them to back off.

  I've pretty much resigned now, knowing that my mom WILL die being a part of this corrupted cult. I can do nothing about that, nothing. But I CAN and WILL be at her side when the time comes. And I look forward to butting heads with those guys that screwed up our entire family nucleus. Rest in peace? Too late for that now mom, isn't it?

  sKally...STOP THE INSANITY ALREADY!!!
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  TR

  I'm with nic. What a sick load of crap. If someone told be I couldn't be at a loved one's funeral, I would kick their ass.

  TR

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