Disfellowshipped for 3 years. One JW still persistent I will return some day...

by TimothyTr 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • steve2
    steve2

    Nice gay men often have clingy females who believe they can help the gay men change and get on the right path. Has she not got a life? Has she got designs on you?

    On the other hand, for all the presure you must feel, it is kind of a big compliment when another "safe" person (i.e., woman) declares their loyalty to you - especially when you feel so rejected by everyone else.

    Fact is you're gay - and reading between the lines, accepting of it - but more importantly, you're disfellowshipped. What part of that doesn't this loyal but dense woman not get? I suspect that at least part of the reason this has continued is because you are not a very assertive fellow. Am I right?

    As for her emotional dysregulation, here's where I stand: You must be doing something to allow the little temper tantrums to continue. Would any self-respecting person allow themselves to be subjected to such displays? I suspect you are a very, very tolerant and understanding man, huh? There is no excuse for her behavior...nor for you putting up with it.

    It smacks of a juvenile outlook in which she has learned over her life that if she "acts out" often enough, she will eventually get her way. Are you deserving of better behavior from her?

    Being gay is who you are - it won't change.

    I could tell you to develop a spine and stop allowing her to manipulate you - but I suspect she is an important support person in your life - which explains why her juvenile behavior continues. It's great to have loyal friends - but in this case, the high price is corrosive of your self-respect.

  • NAVYTOWN
    NAVYTOWN

    When she becomes overly emotional, irrational and unhinged, try saying: 'At this time I don't choose to discuss this with you'. Then change the subject. You are under NO obligation to subject yourself to her craziness. When she's in a calmer state of mind, explain to her that you have no intention of ever returning to the Witness organization. Tell her she needs to stop pressuring you if she wants to be in contact with you. Keep saying this as long as she persists in guilt-tripping you. Avoid getting into long, detailed debates with her about the JWs. That only feeds her obsession. I hope you are able to successfully deal with this problem. Good luck!!

  • problemaddict
    problemaddict

    Offer to explain to her why you are making a conscious decision to not support the religion you were once a part of and know very well. Don't even make it about being gay.

    Ask her how she knows time is running out? World getting worse? I think not. 100 years ago Ebola would have wiped out 15% of the continent of Africa by now.

    Reinstatement.....how? Reinstated to what.....that you are not already?

    These are the things that will get her to think, or just leave you alone.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    What should I do?

    Tell her this: "If you seriously read these two books, CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE by Raymond Franz and COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL by Steven Hassan, I will gladly discuss the books with you and ONLY AFTER OUR SERIOUS DISCUSSION will I discuss with you the possibility of coming back."

    She is hung up on what a great person you are and sure you will be blessed with holy spirit to overcome your gayness.

  • Pete Zahut
    Pete Zahut

    Either you aren't being direct enough or she has some kind of mental block when it comes to you. She is obviously not hearing you. Do whatever it was they said to do with emotionally imbalanced people, when you studied counseling.

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