EBOLA -why should America take the lead in handling it?

by hamsterbait 33 Replies latest jw friends

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    Millions have died in Africa from civil wars where the governments have squandered money on bombs guns and tanks, whilst allowing millions more to die of malaria, diarrhoea and other treatable diseases. Thousands more have died in Nigeria from religious killing than Ebola.

    And now BIG BAD AMERICA is the one they all turn to (in mainly Muslim countries) to save them, just like Kuwait did in 1991. (condemned after for their interference)

    What is the rest of the world doing? How much has Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Emirates, Malaysia, India, China, japan, Pakistan or Dubai given ?

    America will be condemned after all of this for

    1: Not doing enough

    2: Interfering.

    These countries have been shitting and pissing in their own drinking water for decades - let them stop fighting and sort themselves out. Americans are sick to death of being damned if you do damned of you dont.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/en/

    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/events/meetings/2014/lop-ebola-consultation.pdf

    http://www.mappbio.com/ - US Company

    http://www.tekmira.com/ - Canadian

    http://www.sarepta.com/ - US Company

    http://www.toyama-chemical.co.jp/en/index.html - Japan

    http://www.biocryst.com/company_overview_mission - US Based with partners in Japan, Taiwan and Korea

    So it is safe to say that this is a world-wide collaborative effort with the advanced treatments coming from first-world countries, of which the US is one.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    As for religious beliefs, it's a mixed bag:

    Dem. Rep. of Congo, Majority 50% Catholic

    Senegal - 94% Muslim

    Liberia - 85.6% Christian

    Guinea - 85% Muslim

  • NAVYTOWN
    NAVYTOWN

    I hereby call on ALL nations in Africa, and ALL warring factions, to immediately cease all violence. They can then put ALL their efforts into fighting the Ebola threat. Why should the 'world community' try to solve this while Africans refuse to step up and do proactive things to contain the epidemic? The African people must stop believing in witch doctors and tribal cures, and listen to and work with doctors and aid workers. Just having the US send in troops won't be effective unless the African people cooperate and do their part. I'm waiting to see when/if this will happen.

  • AlphaMan
    AlphaMan

    Just heard Obama was sending 3,000 U.S. troops to Africa to fight ebola. I agree......the U.S. will take the majority lead in this, and still get shit on by people. China who many would like to see over take the U.S. won't do shit. That's why they have such a strong economy, because they do nothing to try to help anyone not their own. China won't spend money to fight ISIS or ebola.

  • little_Socrates
    little_Socrates

    Hamsterbait I totally hear what you are saying. However in this particular case... the potential for a horrific outcome is so great for the entire world we HAVE to do what ever we can. As soon as we have moved from the crisis phase THEN it will be time to talk about the politics of it.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    hamsterbait:

    Millions have died in Africa from civil wars where the governments have squandered money on bombs guns and tanks, whilst allowing millions more to die of malaria, diarrhoea and other treatable diseases. Thousands more have died in Nigeria from religious killing than Ebola.

    ... These countries have been shitting and pissing in their own drinking water for decades - let them stop fighting and sort themselves out. Americans are sick to death of being damned if you do damned of you dont.

    The truth of your statements are (mostly) undeniable, but I suggest that it is a very shallow analysis. You fail to ask the question, as to how conditions in Africa came to be as described?

    Important in understanding the answer, is the history of the region, so why not go a step further and attempt to understand why it is so?

    As a first step to get interested in the why, try reading Joseph Conrad's, Heart of Darkness.

    An overview in Wikipedia comments:

    "... The story is a complex exploration of the attitudes people hold on what constitutes a barbarian versus a civilized society and the attitudes on colonialism and racism that were part and parcel of European imperialism ."

    In the plot summary this description is given:

    Plot summary

    Aboard the Nellie, anchored in the River Thames near Gravesend, England, Charles Marlow tells his fellow sailors about the events that led to his appointment as captain of a river-steamboat for an ivory trading company. He describes his passage on ships into the wilderness to the Company's station, which strikes Marlow as a scene of devastation: disorganized, machinery parts here and there, periodic demolition explosions, weakened native black men who have been demoralized, in chains, literally being worked to death, and strolling beside them an African guard in a uniform carrying a rifle.

    At this station Marlow meets the Company's chief accountant who tells him of a Mr. Kurtz, and explains that Kurtz is a first-class agent. Marlow leaves with a caravan to travel on foot some two hundred miles deeper into the wilderness to the Central Station, where the steamboat that he is to captain is based. Marlow is shocked to learn that his steamboat had been wrecked two days before his arrival. The manager explains that they needed to take the steamboat up-river because of rumours that an important station was in jeopardy and that its chief, Mr. Kurtz, was ill.

    Marlow describes the Company men at this station as lazy back-biting "pilgrims", fraught with envy and jealousy, all trying to gain a higher status within the Company, which, in turn, would provide more personal profit; however, they sought these goals in a meaningless, ineffective and lazy manner, mixed with a sense that they were all merely waiting, while trying to stay out of harm's way.

    In regard to your further comment-

    What is the rest of the world doing? How much has Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Emirates, Malaysia, India, China, japan, Pakistan or Dubai given ?

    May I refer to this news item in the China Daily:

    China sends mobile laboratory testing team to Sierra Leone
    By Feng Hui
    Updated: 2014-09-16
    To further support Sierra Leone in its fight against the Ebola hemorrhagic fever epidemic, as well as to respond to the appeal of the UN and WHO to support Africa in controlling Ebola, China, at the request of the Sierra Leone government, will send a mobile laboratory testing team to Sierra Leone on September 16. The team, equipped with 59 medical experts who specialize in laboratory testing, epidemiology, clinical medicine and nursing, will help Sierra Leone in testing the Ebola virus.
    The testing team will work at the China-Sierra Leone Friendship Hospital aided by China, assisting Sierra Leone to do laboratory screening and observe suspected cases.
    Since three West African countries broke out with Ebola, China has dispatched 115 medical experts to support the fight against Ebola in these countries. The long-term medical team is equipped with 88 medical staff, and the short-term team is equipped with 27 experts. At present, 33 medical staffers are working in the Ebola-hit areas.
    Together with 59 medical experts dispatched this time, Chinese medical staff in West African countries will reach 174 in total.

    Source: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/m/chinahealth/2014-09/16/content_18606138.htm

  • tootired2care
    tootired2care

    No good deed goes unpunished. This will no doubt prove true, as the ungrateful world, and the UN will criticise the US for not doing enough as you mentioned. Meanwhile, other super prosperous nations like Saudi Arabia never lift a finger, and get a free pass, and never contribute their fair share to help the world.

    http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/sep/08/charitable-giving-country#data

    Saudi Arabia gets an overall chartity Ranking of 28%, and the United arab emirates gets a ranking of 36% which is lower than many poor countries such as Mexico, Haiti etc. It's pathetic.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Africa's leaders learned how to exploit their populace in endlessly creative ways by example of their recently exited colonial overlords (Britain, France).

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/08/books/08masl.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    So...Japan's and Canada's contributions don't mean anything to an American? How about the contribution from Cuba?

  • AlwaysBusy
    AlwaysBusy

    I do not understand why JW missionaries are being sent to Africa....or if they are already there, why aren't they quarantined and then sent home. With the international conventions and African delegates traveling from Africa to Europe and USA and back again, it would only take one person to spread the Ebola virus, or any virus to thousands of people... I hope I don't know what I am talking about.

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