More of the founding fathers had slaves than didn't and the fact is they could have enshrined anti-slavery in the consitution ... but chose not to.
Well it look like AG Eric Holder is finally stepping down.
by tootired2care 32 Replies latest social current
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Shanagirl
Don't be too happy about Holder's resignation. Word on the street up there, , is that Obomber has been in talks with Gingsburg to retire from the SCOTUS, and guess who he is going to nominate? Yep, Holder.
Shana
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BizzyBee
History will show that Eric Holder has been one of our better AGs.
Unfortunately, he was not able to prosecute Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld for their war crimes. But on the whole, he did a great job.
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jam
Who remember John Mitchell? AG 1969-1972.
In 1974 he was indicted for conspiring to plan the watergate
break-in and for perjuring himself during the ensuing cover-up.
Convicted the following year, he served 19 months in prison.
It will be interesting to see what history will say about Holder.
In the 60's M. King was viewed as a agitator...
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tootired2care
Holder’s Legacy:
- Operation Fast and Furious, probably the most reckless law enforcement operation ever carried out by the Justice Department.
- Dereliction of duty – refusing to investigate the IRS scandal (or any real crimes) that makes the Nixon crimes look like a traffic ticket by comparison. [more]
- Attempting to try enemy combatants (Muslim terrorists) in civilian courts. Brilliant idea!
- Sullying the federal office by uneccessarily inserting it into local matters, and inciting racial animus where no evidence existed for it.
- Refusing to enforce laws, and working to subvert the integrity of the voting process, by suppressing state laws that called for voters to show picture ID.
- Suppression of free speech by intimidation of press, and illegal wiretaps.
Etc…
“Holder is the worst person to hold the position of attorney general since the disgraced John Mitchell, who went to jail as a result of the Watergate scandal.” – Former Justice Department employee
“By needlessly injecting politics into law enforcement, Attorney General Holder’s legacy has eroded more confidence in our legal system than any Attorney General before him.” - Darrell Issa
Eric Holder - A worthless steaming pile of human excrement.
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jam
tootired2ccare; You may be right, "Holder is the worst person to hold the
that position" time will tell. But I would like to say this, I really
believe we as a country have made great progress. This shouldn't
be a race issue. If he did a poor job as AG, well he screwed up.
I remember in the early 60's when blacks were running for state official,
some was good and some were bad. Today people want the best
man for the job, it doesn't matter if he is black, white, blue or red.
Just ask the folks in Detroit...
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tootired2care
Today people want the best man for the job, it doesn't matter if he is black, white, blue or red.
Exactly!
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BizzyBee
If only we could go back to the days of those paragons of virtue, John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales!
I guess not - they both resigned in disgrace.
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tootired2care
You know, that stinger of yours is gettin' pretty dull.
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Coded Logic
It's a real shame when people have to twist the truth or just outright lie in order for them to try and justify their pre-existing prejudices.
Operation Fast and Furious, probably the most reckless law enforcement operation ever carried out by the Justice Department.
Operation Fast and Furious was carried out by the ATF. Not the Justice Department. Get your facts straight. And Operation Fast and Furrious was started in 2006. Almost three years BEFORE Holder took office.
Dereliction of duty – failing to investigate the IRS scandal that makes the Nixon crimes look like a traffic ticket by comparison.
The Justice Department did investigate the "IRS Scandal". There were also independent investigations carried out by the Treasury Inspector General, the FBI, and two full blown Congressional investigations (The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and also the Committee of Ways and Means).
Attempting to try enemy combatants (Muslim terrorists) in civilian courts.
It is deeply disturbing that you would try to criticize the Attorny General of the United States for seeking indictments against known murders. You do understand that is part of his job right? I for one am glad to see that he was successful in convicting Osama bin Laden's son-in-law, Sulaiman abu Ghaith, in a Manhattan federal court. I cannot possibly see the downside to that.
Refusing to enforce laws, and working to subvert the integrity of the voting process, by suppressing state laws that called for voters to show picture ID.
Wrong again. Holder's not against showing picture ID when you register to vote. However, he was highly crtical of the Jim Crow laws being passed that were trying to surpress peoples right to vote. Like Texas, where at the poles they would take an out of state expired gun card (which doesn't have a picture on it) but they wouldn't accept student ID from the University of Texas (which does have a picture on it). In other words, if your a conservative who owns a gun they want your vote. But if your a liberal college student they don't want your vote. Holder was also very much against Govner Rick Scott in Florida trying to purge tens of thousand of Democrats names from the voting registry.
Suppression of free speech by intimidation of press, and illegal wiretaps.
Please provide a credible source for this claim.
*Clarification: the ATF works under the Department of the Treasury, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Justice but is an independant branch of all three.