They Persecuted Me

by non_trias_theos 43 Replies latest jw friends

  • DakotaRed
    DakotaRed
    Non does not have a problem with legitimate criticisms of God's people.

    Non, you nor any other JW has yet to show any evidence at all that Silentlambs has made any false claims about the Watchtower. The multitude of victims coming forward cannot all be lying, can they? Barb Pandelas daughter cannot be lying with her Grandfather being convicted. Erica Rodriquez cannot be lying with her abuser also being convicted.

    Yet, the cover-up of cases has been clearly shown. The orders from the Society to the congregations of Barb & Carl Pandela, Barb Anderson and Bill Bowen to convene Judicial Hearings has been truthfully shown. The elders initial refusal to DF Barb Anderson and subsequent comunique from the Society to charge her with additional infractions has also been clearly shown.

    Yet, you come in and say that exJWs "lie about the Christian congregation and show hatred for God and his name."

    Did the thought ever occur to you that some may love the congregation enough to urge it to get back on the correct track and stop perpetrating crimes against innocent victims while protecting the criminal?

    Not one of the four being held up for Judicial Hearings has shown me any hatred for God or his name. Just the opposite. They are showing love by desiring the Society face up to it's human shortcomings and do some necessary changes.

    Since the Society demands this of the Catholic Church, why shouldn't they too be held to the same standard? They admit they are imperfect humans, yet think they cannot make mistakes in this area?

    All that was asked was to actually protect the children and victims. Their covering it up and stonewalling is what sent people to the public for needed change.

    *** g93 4/8 31 Victims of Pedophile Priests Speak Out ***
    Interestingly, though, the aforementioned U.S. attorney, who represents 150 victims of pedophile priests in 23 states, says that he has never yet had a client who was eager to go to court. Each one first tried to seek justice “within the pastoral context of the church.” NCR concludes: “Survivors go to the courts, it appears, not as a first resort, but as a last resort.”
    Straight from the Awake, there you have it. This is exactly what the Watchtower is facing today. If they are suffering, they brought it on themselves. That is not persecution, but just rewards.
  • AjaxMan
    AjaxMan
    Non only cries foul when people lie about the Christian congregation and show hatred for God and his name. Non does not have a problem with legitimate criticisms of God's people.

    If someone disagrees with the Watchtower Society, is that hating God?

    Now, if someone criticizes the Watchtower Society, is that persecution?

    Buddy, if you think speaking against JWs and WTs is persecution, you don't know CRAP about what persecution is about. Have you been thrown to jail for your beliefs? Has your KH being closed down by Police Order? Do you meet with other JWs in secret?

    If I criticize you and the WTS, that's not persecution. That's Freedom of Speech and I have as much God-given right as you to express my views. How about this, why don't you allow your JW friends and relatives express critical opinions toward the WatchTower Society?

  • crawdad2
    crawdad2

    gosh non,... that's and easy trick,,,,,, "we are being persecuted cause we are the true christians".....hahahaha

    even jesus said "you reap what you sow".

    who are you, or the gov body, to say it's righteous persecution????
    are you god's mouthpiece, telling us that???

    you are just reaping what you sowed...

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Hey non,you poor,poor persecuted troll.All you JW`s do,is go from door to door,and threaten the lives people and thier family`s in the name of your immoral religion.You just don`t have the morals or backbone to stand up against that kind of evil,and you`d like us to join you.The trouble is,most see you for the scumbags you are.Go back to what ever hell you came from,and take your evil god,and filthy religion with you...OUTLAW

  • SYN
    SYN

    So, Non, were your precious Governing Body RIGHT or WRONG when they REPEATEDLY VOTED on things such as the rape policy, the blood policy, and Malawi and Mexico? Are you aware of the fact that innocent people were KILLED in Malawi because of abstaining from political activies when in Mexico a similiar thing was happening and the JWs weren't told to abstain by the Governing Body? Are you aware of the fact that women have to wear NAPKINS ON THEIR HEADS in certain instances in their day-to-day lives? How derogatory does one get? Oh, and that napkin thing applies even if the only male present is a baby boy! Your "religion" is extremely sexist, dangerous, and murderous, and the worst of all is, the people who are actually in it don't realize this until it's FAR too late.

    You are sick.

    "Vaccination has never saved a human life. It does not prevent smallpox." The Golden Age, Feb 4 1931 p. 293-4 - The Sacredness of Human Blood (Reasons why vaccination is unscriptural)

  • non_trias_theos
    non_trias_theos

    $$$If someone disagrees with the Watchtower Society, is that hating God?$$$

    Not necessarily.

    $$$Now, if someone criticizes the Watchtower Society, is that persecution?$$$

    Not necessarily.

    $$$Buddy, if you think speaking against JWs and WTs is persecution, you don't know CRAP about what persecution is about. Have you been thrown to jail for your beliefs? Has your KH being closed down by Police Order? Do you meet with other JWs in secret?$$$

    When non talks about persecution, he is not talking about people just criticizing the wts.

    $$$If I criticize you and the WTS, that's not persecution.$$$

    It could be.

    $$$That's Freedom of Speech and I have as much God-given right as you to express my views.$$$

    You also will render an account for how you used your freedom of speech. That will be between you and God.

    $$$How about this, why don't you allow your JW friends and relatives express critical opinions toward the WatchTower Society?$$$

    Maybe they do not want to express critical views. Even if they did, if their criticisms were valid and done in the right way, I would tell them to have at it.

  • SYN
    SYN

    Maybe they do not want to express critical views. Even if they did, if their criticisms were valid and done in the right way, I would tell them to have at it.

    And you do know what the Elders would tell them, don't you?

    "GET AWAY FROM US, YOU EVIL APOSTATES. YOUR FAMILY AND THE ENTIRE CONGREGATIONS ARE NOW GOING TO SHUN YOUR ASSES. DON'T SLAM THE DOOR ON THE WAY OUT OF THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT!"

    "Vaccination has never saved a human life. It does not prevent smallpox." The Golden Age, Feb 4 1931 p. 293-4 - The Sacredness of Human Blood (Reasons why vaccination is unscriptural)

  • BugParadise
    BugParadise

    Non_Trias Says:

    So today. People may persecute jws and make up stories about them or exaggerate shameful acts that do occur in jw camp. But we expect this kinda treatment. We will rise in spite of it.

    You might notice that the Bible said they were persecuted for the name of JESUS. It's safe to say this is not the case with Jehovah's Witnesses now. Having policies favorable to child molesters has nothing to do with Jesus or his name and exposure of such is not persecution. It's Justice.
    Jesus said you are blessed when they speak all manner of things against you UNJUSTLY. No points for when the accusations are just.

    ~Bugs

    "Have you blamed Christendom Today?"

  • BugParadise
    BugParadise

    Non_Trias says in third person:

    This is non's last reponse to Will. Non does not warm to those who deliberately misrepresent his words.
    Why would that be? Don't you "LoveGod" ? [8>]

    You should try not to censor so fast as you will run out of people to respond to much like before.

    ~Bugs

    "Have you blamed Christendom Today"

  • AjaxMan
    AjaxMan
    It could be.

    Tell me how it could be persecution if I make criticism of the JWs and the WatchTower Society?

    You also will render an account for how you used your freedom of speech. That will be between you and God.
    Buddy, I got news for you: You TOO will have to render an account for how you used your freedom of speech to God.

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