What do YOU believe?

by new hope and happiness 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    I believe religion has been the enemy of mankind and halted our growth as a planet.

    We probably could be living in the stars by now with eternal life-ish but religion has spoilt all this.

  • new hope and happiness
    new hope and happiness

    Cofty i noticed you answerd on point " actually i believe truth does not exist there are only points of view"

    This i wrote to create a thread, which think it created a great debate so far.

    Hope new readers read the thread many posters have made great points.

  • new hope and happiness
    new hope and happiness

    Punk but free speach is important. If it wasn't for Cofty i would still be following the Yellow brick road of watchtower crap.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Planet earth is not flat. This is a fact not an opinion. - Cofty

    the earth was once flat. Fact. - NHAH

    and....?

  • new hope and happiness
    new hope and happiness

    and ....?

    My Philosophy Cofty. The point is- THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    This Thread is good for JW's to read, so thank you NHAH. I remember that as an active JW I firmly felt that "Truth" was something tangible, solid, provable.

    It was good for me, and humbling, to find out that it was not so.

    There are of course Facts, as Cofty says, but they are in no way absolute truths, what we know as facts today are often modified by the emergence of more knowledge.

    But Cofty's way of putting it is good, once we have learned about Viral infection, we do not go back to believing in Miasmas as the cause of disease.

    Hence the "truth" of facts may be added to, but the old errors are dead and buried. Like JW "old light" they never were the truth.

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    NH&H - Punk but free speach is important.

    Free speach...hmmmmmm........That would be nice but no such thing exists.

    Try saying out loud that you think Islam is crap and see what happens! Religion again is the face of ignorance.

  • new hope and happiness
    new hope and happiness

    Punk you say " Free speech ..hmmmm....That would be nice no such thing exists.

    Question does free speech exist on this site?

    If it did i wouldn't be here. Free speach needs to be moderated.

    I am so free, i live in a country that blew little countries out the way to have free speech.

    I don't want to turn this threadn to " what do you believe" in to a fight about my politics and science is right.

    You know on my earlier topics i asked about dinasours and the Kennedy assasination, and i learnt postets believe this and other posters believe that. ..and all those different thoughts ...I mean Free Speech to me is better than winning the lottery. It allows us to change the world and since leaving the W.T i can say it exists.

    Thats why you are loved on the board Punk, you say it as you see it...Fact.( cofty)

  • new hope and happiness
    new hope and happiness

    So my point was who cares if they believe this and you Believe that...

    and if Jesus walked on water why not "Awesome" he did that" i just don't see it that way.

    I guess we can make it more wierd, but i have never been that confident Jesus walked on water.

  • new hope and happiness
    new hope and happiness

    So Cofty and Punk, together you make a great sandwish. Punk does't boil and Cofty can get mad. Thats absolute truth as posters on this board now numbering in to the thousands we all share a different " Truth"

    Whats wrong with that?

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