OneEyedJoe - "...skinny jeans look stupid."
Y... you mean no one wants to see the outline of my bulging ball sack?
Nooooooooo....!!!!
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OneEyedJoe - "...skinny jeans look stupid."
Y... you mean no one wants to see the outline of my bulging ball sack?
Nooooooooo....!!!!
do we live in a world where no one is allowed to express a negative opinion about something?
In the UK YES! We are blighted by 'political correctness'.
I am sure there are other religions that express disdain for this look also, do we attack them also?
I guess for the purposes of this forum it's gonna be about the JWs...mostly.
With regard to the AM3 comments...he claims to be god's mouth piece..in other words god told him to say it.
Any religion that does this deserves a darned good kick up the jacksie!
@WallsofJ - Expressing your opinion is one thing. Claiming that gay people are designing these clothes so they can look at you is another.
Maybe Tony has stock in a sweats pants company...
agreed, this is a JW board so yes the focus is on them. I accept that.
I also think that large mustaches with waxed, turned up twirly ends look silly. Does that mean that it should become law that no one is allowed to express themselves by having such a mustache?
agreed. However I don't think it would be a stretch to suggest that tight skirts on women is out of line for a "christian". Why would tight pants on men be any different?
I get that the GB stand on a platform of speaking for god, but to be honest, any christian SHOULD consider tight pants or "skinny" pants unchristian the same way they would find tight skirts
don't get me wrong, I find this kardashian look extremely sexy, but I don't hold the bible as my authority. I would think most "christians" should find this inappropriate.
Any religious leader expressing an 'opinion' on something like clothing has to know that this 'opinion' will be treated as law by the group and in some cases, will be used as a bludgeoning tool. If he doesn't realize this, the screw is looser than I thought.
The irksome thing is two fold. First the WTBTS has mixed their bethel corporate culture, re grooming and dress into their dogma. They have elevated their bias's into doctrines and beliefs (they do that with medical decisions and sexual practices for married couples as well).
Secondly the catch phrase 'Moderation in all things' is good enough there is little to no need to comment from a position of high authority on every god damn thing they think the average JW is too stupid to figure out for themselves. Skinny pants!!!!!
I think these news articles are hilarious. Tony sounds like an idiot. And I guess I wasn't clear on what he was complaining about, so I googled "metrosexual look" and this is what I got:
REALLY? This is what he's all in a tizzy about? Seriously? Personally, the mermaid think these boys look mighty fine. But honestly, who in their right mind would give this a second thought when you've got guys dresses like THIS (below) on the loose? (BTW, no tight pants there, so they must be God-approved). And lest you think I'm talking nothing but fashion here, my point is that Tony's diatribe about sleek suits on buff boys is ridiculous in any context but in the context of the crazies currently loose in our world, is even more out of touch than it would ordinarily be...
do we live in a world where no one is allowed to express a negative opinion about something? I am sure there are other religions that express disdain for this look also, do we attack them also?
Don't you see the point? Yes me and you can state our opinions, because they mean close to nothing. When you are in the position of power, NO you cannot state your opinion during official business.
Let's say that Obama doesn't agree with mini skirts. Should he state his opinion, especially during an official speech? How well you think that would go?
agreed. However I don't think it would be a stretch to suggest that tight skirts on women is out of line for a "christian". Why would tight pants on men be any different?
I get that the GB stand on a platform of speaking for god, but to be honest, any christian SHOULD consider tight pants or "skinny" pants unchristian the same way they would find tight skirts
Tight pants are unchristian today in exactly the same way that exposed ankle on a lady was unchristian in the 1700s. Standards for modesty change. I think it's clear that pants that are sufficiently tight to show the outline of the head of the man's penis are probably something that would be considered immodest by most even today, but he never said anything like that. The pictures in Cadelin's post certainly show tailored somewhat tight suit-pants, but I don't see how they are in any way immodest. In fact, I don't think I would necessarily say that either of the men in your pictures are immodest. The second guy is obviously a little closer to the line than the first, but still I think it's just a matter of taste.
While it's obviously easier to poke fun at the rediculous sound bites that came from the tight-pants rant, my biggest objections to it are:
1. This organization consistently says that they do not make rules for every little bit of minutiae as did the pharasees in Jesus' day. This is a clear example of them doing just that, and from the very top of the pyramid at that. Instead, they should allow their adherents to apply their "bible trained conscience" that they keep going on about and decide for themseleves. The blatant hipocrisy is disgusting.
2. The underlying effect that the GB's making of man-made rules has on JWs is immense, even if the rules are relatively trivial. AMIII says no skinny jeans, so a few JWs throw away their skinny jeans. The very act of their compliance then makes them more likely to go along with bigger things in the future (even if they don't agree that skinny jeans are wrong, they must change their belief to deal with the cognitive dissonance that occurs when they throw them out due to peer pressure). This small, seemingly innocent, rule exemplifies the high level of control that the organization exerts over JWs and it is this control that is most damaging. JWs find themselves in a place where every detail of their lives is controled for them and they have no valid way to introduce their own reasoning. This control results in, among other things, the deaths of thousands for refusal of blood transfusions and organ transplants, the death by suicide of countless teens who are shunned by their own parents, the molestation of countless innocent children by known child molesters and the list goes on. This small, innocent, seemingly christian rule sets the stage for all that. It may seem like an exageration, but it's a well understood psychological effect and without these small rules, the most damaging rules would be more likely to be questioned and ultimately rejected.