Scientists Should Not Dismiss Genesis So Quickly

by Chris Tann 112 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Twitch
    Twitch

    A deist god is precisely as much use as no god.

    Ignore him/her and carry on.

    What "use" should god have?

  • cofty
    cofty

    According to theists he can do all sorts of cool shit.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    Chris might I suggest you study ancient religion. One thing people used to say to me that made me think the bible was true was the scripture about the earth being round while everyone thought it was flat. The Babylonians thought the earth was round like a plate is round not like a ball is round with a watery expanse. So the scripture they used was not what they think.

  • prologos
    prologos

    A deist god is like the rich uncle that left you a fortune, with no chance to give it back to him. and

    with pretty pictures of his most, or some of his work.

  • Chris Tann
    Chris Tann

    I would like to apologize for posting such a lengthy article. I'm new at this and was not sure what I was doing technically. Wont happen again.

    Apognophos: Thank you so much for your respectful disagreement. I will now like to atempt to respond to your statements."creation of plants before the sun was shinning"; in verse 3 light comes through. Just as the article states,the dense cloud of debris gradually get devoured by the forming planet. I would say that verse 3 is explaining when enough debris is gone for sun light to shine on the surface but not completely gone for the sun to be seen yet by an observer.

    "Animals created before plants"; Chapter 2:4-6 is describing the condition of the earth that is the time period between chp.1:9 and vs.11; land had been formed but no rain,therefore the seeds could not germinate. But as chp.2 vs.6 states, a mist went up and watered the whole land. I would assume that misting seed might take longer to saturate it than a downpour of rain. This speaking of a mist would imply that the seeds of grass and trees eventually grew. We can see that there was vegitation before animals because in vs. 8-9 there is a garden and trees for food. Also in vs. 10 a river is formed to water the garden. It is not until vs.19 that animals are created. Vegitation before animals.

  • Captain Obvious
    Captain Obvious

    Your ad hoc excuses/explanations do not impress.

    Keep at this, though. Eventually you will realize how far you have to bend and how much you have to ignore to be the type of believer you want to be.

  • prologos
    prologos

    CT, it was obvious to the ancient writers that you have to have fodder before you can keep beasts.

    please adress the the 9 billion earth-year long beginning ( start up) of Gen:1:1.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    Doesn't the (7) Days of Creation hold a humorous irony to itself ?

    Like God would go on segmented calculated time scale

    I don't think he has a calender on a wall somewhere or wears a watch.

    God says to himself .....

    " Well I guess I better do this creation thing on a calculated exact time scale because those humans I'm going to create are going to write about it one day "

  • sunny23
    sunny23

    Chris T,

    near the begining of the article you pasted it says,

    "the Bible's description of planet formation is amazingly accurate in view of the fact that the Hebrew word translated 'day' (yom) can mean various lengths of time, not just a 24 hour period. This indicates that the six creative days of Genesis were six creative phases of an unspecified length, which coincides with these scientific discoveries where light from the sun, emerged gradually."

    I disagree, how do you reconcile that statement with this logic...

    "There is a theory that says each of God's days in Genesis were actually millions of years for us. Is this true? Maybe we need to ask what does the word "day" mean in Genesis?

    The Hebrew word "yom" is translated as day in Genesis. Just as our word "day" can have different meanings based on its context, so can the word "yom". For example, in the Old Testament "yom" is translated to mean a 24 hour day 1109 times. It means a long, long period of time--such as an age--about nine times.

    However, every time the word "yom" is used with the term evening or morning in the Bible, it means a regular 24 hour day.

    Every time the word "yom" is used with a number, such as "40 yom" (40 days), it means a regular 24 hour day.

    What we now see is that in Genesis chapter one God is going out of His way to emphasize that each day is a normal 24 hour day. For example in verse five He says:

    "And there was evening and there was morning, one day."

    Verse 8: "And there was evening and there was morning, a second day."

    Verse 13: "There was evening and there was morning, a third day."

    For each day of creation the pattern is the same: evening, morning, number, day. Just part of that pattern, for example using the words "evening" and "day" together, tell us it was a 24 hour day. But God tells us in three ways -- evening, morning, number -- that the word day means... an ordinary 24 hour day.

    God is making it very clear: He created everything in six ordinary days."

    Also don't forget that biblical chronology puts the creation of homo sapiens at 6,000 years ago. Google "age of homo sapiens" and see what happens LOL

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    ""Scientists Should Not Dismiss Genesis So Quickly""

    Yes they should.

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