Sister trying to convince me and herself

by NoMoreFear4Tracy 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    Most of those are down right lies, look at number 1 many churches usea name for God, Yahweh or Jehovah its also in many bibles other then theirs,.

  • Apognophos
    Apognophos

    This list is really more of 10 Things That (Supposedly) Make Jehovah's Witnesses Unique. Even if all 10 points were truly unique, that would not make them automatically correct. There are a good number of arguments against these points individually, to be found around the forum.

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    Cherry picked "proofs" with hand-selected answers directed to carefully coached conclusions.

    That being said, the first 9 are demonstrably false. #10 maybe too, but I'm not sure.

    Many other religions could easily make a similar list of "No other religion ...."

    All it proves is this, let's review: It's a cult!

    -

  • leaving_quietly
    leaving_quietly

    Oddly enough, but not surprising, the ONE thing Christ said that would identify his disciples is NOT on this list.

    By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves. - John 13:35

    In addition, Christ warned that there would be all sorts of people who would supposedly do stuff in his name. His reaction?

    Why, then, do you call me ‘Lord! Lord!’ but do not do the things I say? - Luke 6:46

    What things did Christ say to do BESIDES teaching others do observe his commandments?

    How about this?

    Eat his flesh and drink his blood (figuratively via partaking of the bread and the wine). See John 6 and notice the words, "unless" and "whoever". JW's do NOT do this because their leadership has told them that they are unworthy.

    There's plenty more. Here's a nice, succinct list: http://iblp.org/questions/what-are-commands-christ

    Something else to consider: The phrase "true religion" is not in the Bible (just like Trinity or Rapture). The concept of religion is. It's found here:

    The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world. - James 1:27

    Do JWs have a program set up to look after orphans or widows? No? Why not?

    I could go on, but I think I'll stop now.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    Number 2 is another big one in my opinion, Galatians 1:6- speaks of the good news and the writer states that the good news is the Messiah, Jesus. The JW's preach just about everything else but the messiah.

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    could have some fun with point 9, I take it she has not really read this sheet or she knows nothing about the UN Membership, The Malawi/Mexico scandal and the investment stock of companies that are producing defence hardware?(The Rand Cam Engine Corp)

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    number 2 is truely pathetic boast, where would you start with ripping that one apart?

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    A Pioneer of long standing sent me a similar list just after I stopped attending, so similar in fact that I have the feeling they may pick up this nonsense at Pioneer School ??

    Seven out of the Ten are downright WRONG, factually incorrect, and as Apog says above the others have been shown to be false teachings many times on this Forum.

    Epic fail.

    It reminds me of an opponent of mine in a sporting event, I took my best shot, and he said "Is that thre best you can do?" in an effort to demoralise me.

    But I ask JW's, if any are reading here, Really, is that the best you can do ?

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    Time for the Apostate Army to create a counter document. I don't have time right now to do the whole thing but I'll start with:

    1) The name 'Jehovah' is unpronouncable in Hebrew.

    2) Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT preaching to all the inhabitted Earth. The mathematics on this alone does not support this hypothesis. 7 million JWs in no way, shape, or form can preach to 7 billion, and growing, Earth inhabittants. Also, there are ongoing discoveries of indigenous tribes of peoples no one ever knew existed before (eg: Amazon rain forest tribes discovered in 2008 and 2011). I guarantee you JWs are NOT preaching to these people.

    3) Jehovah's Witnesses are not expelling from their organization known child sex offenders. I personally know of 1 such person who is still a JW and sexually abused his daughter. We could list a number of known offenders still in good standing.

  • KateWild
    KateWild

    Some of the list other religions do do. LIke it has been mentioned as for the others just because no other religion does it, it doesn't mean this religion is true. The fact that they shun is bad and not something t no be proud of. It shows they are not loving.

    Kate xx

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