Do not feed the trolls.....
After all, JWs were RIGHT!
by abiather 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Listener
How were the JWs right about climate change?
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smiddy
JWs may have gone wrong in some dates and silly details. But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE, but day by day its radiance increases: “To earthling man his way does not belong.” (Jeremiah 10:23)
WHOOAAAA , jehovahs witnesses didn`t originate that statement , if JW`s can claim that scripture in jer. 10 :23 as a core statement of their beleifs then so can 40,000 other christian sects that uphold the bible as their guide .
smiddy
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sparrowdown
Excellent point smiddy.
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Listener
Let's be even clearer, it isn't about JWs being vindicated for being right, it will all be about God and his vindication. Any suggestion otherwise is a slur on God's name.
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smiddy
And Gods name is ....what ? The four consonants of the hebrew ?, the name given by a catholic monk adding vowels to the 4 letters of the english equivalent to the hebrew letters of the tetragrammaton ? coming up with jehovah ? , which even the WTB&TS admitted in their first printing of the Aid To Bible Understanding book , that Yahweh may be the more correct pronunciation of Gods name , and rationalizing it that society were more familiar with the name jehovah because of their familiararity with that name due to common usage.
But on the other hand dont they say they are the only ones who use and identify God as jehovah?
Dont they give the impression they alone use Gods name jehovah ? Check out u-tubes videos "Jehovah Is He " recorded by many christian religions.
You might want to check out also the US marines u-tube singing a song about Elijah and jehovah .
just saying
smiddy
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mana11
JWs may have gone wrong in some dates and silly details. But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE
Lol, You miss the point.
God is truth. God cannot Lie, thus jehovahs appointed and anointed ones must be pure and holy to fit the logic behind the core teachings.
Charles Taze Russel was not holy, he had a mistress and screwed the house girl it seems. He was divorced by his wife.
His appointed successors to take over when he died were kicked out on their butts by a man seeking power. have you checked the record of these events?.
Early Dates given were taken from other religons ideas and simply add to.
Additional dates were arrived at via Russels Pagan beliefs of Pryamid measurements.
What core teachings could you possibly excuse as unchanable since all the teachings of the Organisation you know continually see saw back and forth.
Now you are ruled by an elite group that display pinky rings as a status symbol of whom you worship.
WAKE UP you are in dream land
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Listener
I don't know if you were commenting on my post Smiddy. I thought it might get a reaction from anyone who is an atheist and that's okay.
I didn't mention God's name because that isn't the point of what I was saying. As a believer, it's not about the JW relgion and whether they are right or not because it is obvious that they aren't right. They do have some things correct but so does many religions. The sanctification is about God, he is the one that will save mankind. Knowing his name is not important otherwise Jesus would have made that clear to us, but it is about identifying him personally, we don't need a name as such, which is just a label after all.
Smiddy isn't your name (or maybe it is?) and Listener isn't my name, but on this forum we are identified by that label.
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happy@last
I recall an illustration that used to get used over and over to warn of the dangers outside JW land, if you had a glass of refreshing water with just a little poison in it would you drink it? Apply it to JW, if it seems by appearance to be okay and yet they have consistently lied since their inception, would you think it's okay?
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skeeter1
JWs on climate change. Would that be the water cloud teaching of the WTS?
( The WTS is making this sh** up, dude! They don't know these exact details of exactly what happened.)
According to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses:
“This is no mere local flood. The water canopy, or heavenly ocean, bursts open, and a torrential downpour pounds the ark.”
— Watchtower 3/15 2011
“Where did the water causing the global Flood come from? During the second creative period, or “day,” when the earth’s atmospheric “expanse” was formed, there were waters “beneath the expanse” and waters “above the expanse.” The waters “beneath” were those already on earth. The waters “above” were huge quantities of moisture suspended high above the earth, forming a “vast watery deep.” These waters fell upon the earth in Noah’s day.”
— Watchtower 01/01 2004
“...from what source was this vast deluge of Noah’s day? According to the Genesis account, God said to Noah: “Here I [Jehovah] am bringing the deluge [or, “heavenly ocean” of waters upon the earth.””
— Insight, Volume I - pg. 609-612
“Where did this “heavenly ocean” come from? The Genesis account of creation tells how on the second “day” Jehovah made an expanse about the earth, and this expanse (called “Heaven”) formed a division between the waters below it, that is, the oceans, and the waters above it. (Ge 1:6-8) The waters suspended above the expanse evidently remained there from the second “day” of creation until the Flood.”
— Insight, Volume I - pg. 609-612
“Various explanations have been offered as to how the water was held aloft until the Flood... [God’s] almighty power could easily accomplish it.”
— Insight, Volume I - pg. 609-612
“On the fourth “day,” the atmosphere gradually cleared to such an extent that the sun and the moon were made to appear “in the expanse of the heavens.” In other words, from the perspective of a person on earth, the sun and moon began to be discernible. These events happened gradually”
— Was Life Created? pg. 24-28 2010
“With the Deluge great changes came, for example, the life span of humans dropped very rapidly. Some have suggested that prior to the Flood the waters above the expanse shielded out some of the harmful radiation and that, with the waters gone, cosmic radiation genetically harmful to man increased. However, the Bible is silent on the matter. Incidentally, any change in radiation would have altered the rate of formation of radioactive carbon-14 to such an extent as to invalidate all radiocarbon dates prior to the Flood.”
— Insight on the Scriptures, Volume I, pg. 609-612
Alot of people disagree with John Kerry and climate change. Some have shown that he is wrong, and in it for money. While he preaches the environment, his own consumption leaves a large blueprint. Others note that the sun's effect may have alot to do with global warming. Others believe it is natural for the Earth to go through large swings in temperature, with ice ages and heating occurring before there was ever any man made machine.