After all, JWs were RIGHT!

by abiather 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  But their core teaching remains not only UNCHALLENGED and UNCHANGEABLE

  Wrong on both counts, abiathar.

  WT teachings are constantly challenged and exposed as untenable ...you may have noticed it happens here everyday.

  UNCHANGEABLE

  This is especially lauaghable, considering WT itself has changed at least two of its most 'core' doctrines recently: re-defining the identitiy of the faithful and discreet slave (again), and concocting an overlapping generation (this is the 9th redefinition of what "generation" means).
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  looter

  shirly you forgot about 1919
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  abiather

  Listener (also AndDontCallMeShirley & sowhatnow)

  You are asking in what way climate change vindicates JWs. I did not explain this as all ex-JWs know the answer. Yet I will do it for you:

  The substratum of all JW teachings is that humans would bring only ruin if they try to rule themselves without taking God’s will into account. And when the ruination reaches its climax, God would replace the present kingdoms (the real ruler of which is the greed of those who use technology) with His Kingdom; hence JWs has the caption: “THE WATCHTOWER announcing God’s Kingdom.” All other teachings have only secondary and supportive role, hence change in them would not matter.

  Now picturize what science and technology have done as though in a story. What is the climax of this story? Science and its application (technology) spoiled the promptness of earth—it’s like cutting the branch one sits on. Science and technology have given you all gadgets of comfort, but in the process POLLUTED AIR & WATER (what is the use of gadgets of comfort if you cannot breathe pure air and drink pure water?), and have been leading the ecosystem into a great catastrophe.

  This vindicates the core-teaching of JW that God’s Kingdom is the ONLY remedy which they have been CONSISTENTLY proclaiming from their very inception!
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  Listener

  Let's carry on with that thought Abiather.

  Not only have the JWs been declaring what you say, they have themselves contributed vastly to global pollution by -

  Printing millions upon millions of books, magazines and pamphlets, requiring the destruction of millions of trees and all sorts of chemicals. These chemicals, including ink and other waste products have been ploughed back into the earth and finding it's way into water systems. They have been doing this for well over 100 years, the old publications are considered basically worthless even by JWs.

  Billions of litres of petrol and oil required for the preaching work even though there are cheaper and more effective methods of preaching

  The continual refurbishing of Kingdom Halls even though it is not necessary
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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Science and technology have given you all gadgets of comfort, but in the process POLLUTED AIR & WATER

  Huh. So WT castigates science for polluting the earth with technology and gadgets... while WT simultaneously encourages JWs to buy iPads, use JW.Org and proceeds with a massive worldwide (unnecessary) building campaign?

  Isn't this a little bit like hypocritically protesting against Big Oil... but driving to the protest rally in your SUV powered by an internal combustion engine?

  You and WT can posture all you want, abiathar... I ain't buyin' it.

  This vindicates the core-teaching of JW that God’s Kingdom is the ONLY remedy which they have been CONSISTENTLY proclaiming from their very inception!

  You mean the same kingdom WT said was going to destroy this entire world "wholesale" in the year 1914? Then in 1915? Then 1925? Then 1975? All within the generation that was 15 years-old in 1914? Then 10 years-old? Then born in 1914? Then within the generation of an 'overlapper' of someone who may have known someone who heard of someone that might have been born in 1914?

  The only thing consistent about WT core teachings is their inconsistency. And your arguments here are as untenable as the arguments WT has been blundering their way through for 133 years.
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  DATA-DOG

  A"blab"ithar, you are full of shit.

  DD
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  jwfacts

  Science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind,

  What does that even mean?

  Science and technology appeared as a savior to mankind,

  If you at going to pay out science then I hope you don't tak advantage of doctors, medicine, cars or public transport, computers and the Internet, otherwise you are a hypocrite.
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  DATA-DOG

  Uh..., I'm still picturizing stuff and junk..

  DD
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  OnTheWayOut

  You are like the watchtower. You put up some data and cite a scripture and that is supposed to prove something.

  Demonstrate that Watchtower is even "right" about the science and technology and about climate change.

  And by "right," I mean for you to demonstrate that they predicted something that turned out to be right.

  It is much easier to assume they are wrong about something until proven otherwise. It saves time and trouble.
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  LoveUniHateExams

  humans would bring only ruin if they try to rule themselves without taking God’s will into account

  Humans must rule ourselves - God never seems to do anything to help.

  Therefore, either God doesn't involve himself in human affairs, or God doesn't exist.