by stuckinarut2 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Yes, this comment was just made by the speaker today!:
"If you find that you are lacking in JOY or experiencing PROBLEMS in life, this is evidence that Jehovah's spirit is lacking or being blocked in your life"
I sat there thinking "are you kidding me brother?... Isn't that the false argument Job's 'comforters' used??"
What a self righteous git!
Evidently, if you lack JOY or experiencing PROBLEMS in life, it's also because Satan knows you're doing the "right thing" and putting trials before you. I was told to be appreciate my depression for that reason. A whole lot of bullshit right there.
I once heard a speaker say: if you are faithfully serving jehovah and you are having problems, its normal as satan is trying to stumble you. If you are not serving faithfully, its normal you are having troubles because you are not obeying jehovah.
typical damned if you do and damned if you dont. I quite liked the guy, and was really diappointed he came out with that
Spirits usually take away problems and give joy. Until the hangover in the morning...
I'm having more joy and fewer problems now than I ever did as a JW. This is evidence that Jehovah's spirit is upon me.
This is evidence that Jehovah's spirit is upon me.
No, that's the devil's joy. But the joy he (He?) gives is shortlived and minor in comparison to the joy Jehovah gives, even if what Jah gives looks and feels like abject misery at the time. That's roughly what I remember them writing somewhere.
*** w09 4/15 p. 4 par. 7 Job Held High the Name of Jehovah ***
Then, three men arrived—Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar—ostensibly to offer Job comfort. Instead, they used deceptive reasoning and proved to be “troublesome comforters.” For example, Bildad suggested that Job’s children had engaged in wrongdoing and deserved their fate. Eliphaz insinuated that Job’s suffering was punishment for past sins. He even questioned whether those who keep integrity are of any value to God! (Job 2:9, 11; 4:8; 8:4; 16:2; 22:2, 3)
*** w06 8/15 p. 27 par. 9 “You Have Heard of the Endurance of Job” ***
Above all, we must never see our problems as certain evidence of God’s displeasure. Such a misunderstanding hurt Job at a time when he was being assailed by the harsh words of his would-be comforters. (Job 19:21, 22) The Bible assures us with these words: “With evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone.” (James 1:13)
---------I used the false comforters discussion with an elder and how they were like Job's three "friends"
Oh, great! Now, on top of everything else, you're telling me that God hates me!
Funny! We had exactly the same talk last week and the speaker said the same thing. This is coming from the WT. Completely nonsensical and illogical as always.
" If you find that you are lacking in JOY or experiencing PROBLEMS in life, this is evidence that Jehovah's spirit is lacking or being blocked in your life " - OR
If you find that you are lacking in JOY or experiencing PROBLEMS in life , this is evidence that you are experiencing cognizant dissonance from participating in an unjust, criminal organization like the WT Society that is controlling you through guilt and fear mongering and is causing you to lose ANY spirit to live whatsoever and is BLOCKING you from living your life. Good. Now THAT is a little more accurate. LOL
