Interesting JustJW Post

by Francois 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • Francois
    Francois

    You just never know. The following is a post dealing with Dateline and Pedophilia in the Borg. I predict that the guy who wrote this post may show up here one day before too long. Get a load of this:

    The safety of the children should come first. Elders are instructed that upon hearing an allegation of child abuse that they are to contact the Society’s Legal Department. I’m sorry but that tells me right off where the priorities are.

    Our brothers and sisters in Malawi were robbed of their businesses, taken from their homes, raped, tortured, and murdered for not buying a political card in a one party country. Now we allow dirty old men to fondle and violate our children for fear of being sued? What in the world does the legal department have to do with our children? The legal department should exist for the sole purpose of attending to the legal affairs of the corporations used by the society for the dissemination of the literature. Lawyers have no business talking to elders about our children.

    We are sacrificing our children for the sake of protecting an image that we are projecting for the outside world to see. That is really what all of this boils down to…our public image. If we really are what we say we are, let them see us as we truly are. We are not perfect. We make mistakes, terrible ones at times. Do we think for one minute by covering up our mistakes that others will assume that we are without fault? How vain and silly and childish to think so.

    One of our children is molested and the perpetrator is free due to a mere policy which will, I assure you, change in time, all for the sake of protecting what we perceive to be our reputation with the world? I’ve got some very sober news. The world hates us anyway and thinks very little of us. The more we pretend that we are better than them and the more we seclude ourselves the more suspicious they become of us and the more they distrust and hate us. When you are right why should you care what the world thinks of you?

    When will we realize that the world is very aware of our faults and our imperfections. They know what is going on because not one of us does not have some contact with the world. They know that we are not perfect and it makes them shake their heads at us as they watch us go about our business trying to fool them into thinking we are better than them and all the while the only ones being fooled are ourselves.

    It’s been said that you cannot elevate yourself by putting others down. We cannot claim to be clean by casting off those who call us down on our mistakes. Killing the messenger will not make the bad news go away. Putting our heads in the sand and pretending the problem is not there will not protect our little children.

    I hear a lot of talk about waiting on Jehovah. When you wake up in the middle of the night and your child has a raging fever, do you wait on Jehovah or do you drive immediately to the emergency room of the nearest hospital? When you are overcharged for a service or product do you just accept it as persecution or do you do something about it as quickly as possible because this involves your hard earned money? Why is it any different when it comes to our children? Eccl 3:7,8 tells us that there is "a time to keep quiet and a time to speak; a time to love and a time to hate; a time for war and a time for peace". Some of our brothers and sisters feel that it is the time to speak. We can cast them off and call them dirty names but that will only come back later and fall on our faces to our shame if we do so.

    I would not want to be in that congregation that all took sides with the person who molested that young sister only to find out that the man was guilty as sin. What does that make those that abandoned their sister to side with the sinner? How do we suppose Jehovah views those that abandon his own for the sinner? On which side of that courtroom do you suppose Jesus would have sat? Which side would YOU have sat? It’s a sobering thought, is it not?

    ________________

    It just shows to go you, doesn't it? There are people in the Borg who can and do think. Um, that's where WE all came from isn't it? Too bad the GB doesn't have the moral and ethical sensitivity of some of its own publishers.

    Best to all,
    Francois

  • Makena1
    Makena1

    Wow - what a clear thinking person. His post is a keeper!
    Sounds like he has read COC with the reference to Malawi.

    Mak

    Some men worship rank, some worship heroes, some worship power, some worship God, & over these ideals they dispute & cannot unite--but they all worship money.
    - Mark Twain

  • Guest 77
    Guest 77

    Wow, another witness heading for a committee meeting!

    Guest 77

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    Jeez, that guy sounds like his head's screwed on strait. Nice to see.

    If just enough of those fellows still in can make a difference, maybe some witties will see the truth about themselves.

    ashi

  • COMF
    COMF

    His fate is sealed. Dust off the welcome mat.

    "Can you believe there are still people suckering for this shit?"
    - J.R. Brown

  • Trotafox
    Trotafox

    FRANCOIS:

    You beat me to it. I saw the post and was going to post it here. I sat reading all the disgusting "Woe is us", "blame it on the apostates", "Jehovah's cleansing the congregation", "keep the faith", "were just human" (19 friggin' posts of that crap") and then this guy posted. I said PRAISE THE LORD...A THINKING J.W. Get this. Only two more posts were made after this and guess what? All the crying JW's disappeared! There hasn't been a single post since 11:15 this morning. Guess he let the wind out of their sails. There was a "shocked" Newbie post after his and then the post below which was also a slap to the JW's. Shut them up REAL fast. Anyway here is the last of their posts:

    You make a very good point:
    "I would not want to be in that congregation that all took sides with the person who molested that young sister only to find out that the man was guilty as sin."

    I think the Dateline show Erica being all a lone durring the first trial and many Witnesses sitting on the side of the accused ex-elder totally sickening. This pedophile really has the wool pulled over the eyes of the congregation. And the PO of his congregation speaking in his behalf made me sick.

    Also you make a good point:

    [i]What does that make those that abandoned their sister to side with the sinner? How do we suppose Jehovah views those that abandon his own for the sinner? On which side of that courtroom do you suppose Jesus would have sat? Which side would YOU have sat? It’s a sobering thought, is it not?[/]

    I would have sat on Erica's side!!!!
    That poor girl was being abused since she was 4 years old. I can't even begin to imagine how that must have damaged her self worth.
    This guy was a family friend and an elder in their congregation at the time the years of abused were happening to this poor little girl..
    He threatened her with Congregation action if she told anyone.
    Which makes it hard to see why on earth any in the congregation would side with him and not support Erica Rodriquez.


    Where are our priorities brothers and sister?
    Are we so worried about the reputation of the Organization that we can't see how bad this thing is?
    I say it is good these things come to the light.
    Jehovah is Impartial and will not hold back his judgement just because it will hurt the reputation of those that claim to represent him.
    I think we should reavaluate our priorities and start thinking like mature CHRISTIANS.

    ROLE OUT THE WELCOME MAT FOR THESE "THINKING" JDUBS!

    Trot

  • teenyuck
    teenyuck

    Francois,

    I tried to e-mail you and it failed....do you have another? Can you e-mail me and let me know?

    [email protected]

  • Xena
    Xena

    This was great:

    I hear a lot of talk about waiting on Jehovah. When you wake up in the middle of the night and your child has a raging fever, do you wait on Jehovah or do you drive immediately to the emergency room of the nearest hospital? When you are overcharged for a service or product do you just accept it as persecution or do you do something about it as quickly as possible because this involves your hard earned money?
    Excellent and indisputable points!
  • Athanasius
    Athanasius

    Greetings,

    Thank you Trotafox for posting that final comment from the JW line. Its good to see that not all JWs are buying the party line. It is now 6 p.m. in California, has there been any more JW posts since the last time you checked? It would be interesting to see what else they are saying.

    Sincerely,

    Athanasius

  • out4good3
    out4good3

    That was F****** great !!!!!!

    This guy put into plain english what I was trying to tell my wife when this whole story came and when she came home babbling about yet another letter being read at the KH so-called "clarifying this issue".

    This guy, even if he's a dub, deserves a serious high five!!!!!!

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