The Poor JW Children

by larc 65 Replies latest jw friends

  • DriveslikeJehu
    DriveslikeJehu

    And Mommy, here's the rest of the article. It had stopped the section with that question, so here's the next two.

    *** w92 11/1 18-21 Education With a Purpose ***
    A Balanced View of Education
    12 A balanced view of education can help. For many young people of the world, education is a status symbol, something to help them climb the social ladder, the key to a prosperous, materialistic life-style. For others, schooling is a chore to be dispensed with as quickly as possible. Neither of these views is appropriate for true Christians. What, then, might be termed “a balanced view”? Christians should regard education as a means to an end. In these last days, their purpose is to serve Jehovah as much and as effectively as possible. If, in the country where they live, minimal or even high school education will only allow them to find jobs providing insufficient income to support themselves as pioneers, then supplementary education or training might be considered. This would be with the specific goal of full-time service.
    13 Some have taken training courses that have opened up job opportunities enabling them to engage in or resume full-time service. One sister in the Philippines was the family breadwinner, but she wanted to pioneer. The branch reports: “She has been able to do this because she has received additional education to qualify as a certified public accountant.” The same branch report stated: “We have quite a number who are studying and at the same time have been able to arrange their schedules to pioneer. Generally they become better publishers as they are more studious, provided they do not become overly ambitious in worldly pursuits.” The last remark should give us reason to reflect. The purpose of the extra schooling, where this seems necessary, must not be lost sight of or change into a materialistic goal.
    14 In a few countries, secondary schools provide vocational training that can prepare a young Christian for some trade or occupation by the time of graduation. Even when this is not the case, in some lands enterprising youngsters with only basic schooling do find part-time work that enables them to earn enough to pioneer. So no hard-and-fast rules should be made either for or against extra education.
    15 Many who are now serving in responsible positions as traveling overseers, at the Society’s headquarters, or in one of the branches had only basic education. They were faithful pioneers, never stopped learning, received training, and have been entrusted with greater responsibilities. They have no regrets. On the other hand, some of their contemporaries chose to get a university education and fell by the wayside, subjugated by the faith-destroying philosophies and “wisdom of this world.”—1 Corinthians 1:19-21; 3:19, 20; Colossians 2:8.
    Counting the Cost
    16 Who decides whether a young Christian should undertake further education or training? The Bible principle of headship comes into play here. (1 Corinthians 11:3; Ephesians 6:1) On this basis parents will surely want to guide their children in the choice of a trade or occupation and consequently in the amount of education that will be needed. In many countries educational and occupational choices have to be made early on during secondary education. That is the time when Christian parents and youths need to seek Jehovah’s direction in making a wise choice, with Kingdom interests uppermost in mind. Young people have different propensities and aptitudes. Wise parents will take these into account. All honest work is honorable, be it blue-collar or white-collar. While the world may elevate office work and disparage working hard with one’s hands, the Bible certainly does not. (Acts 18:3) So when parents and young Christians today, after carefully and prayerfully weighing the pros and cons, decide for or against postsecondary studies, others in the congregation should not criticize them.
    17 If Christian parents responsibly decide to provide their children with further education after high school, that is their prerogative. The period of these studies would vary according to the type of trade or occupation selected. For financial reasons and in order to enable their children to get into the full-time service as quickly as possible, many Christian parents have chosen for them short-term study programs in vocational or technical schools. In some cases youths have needed to be apprenticed to some trade but always with a full life of service to Jehovah as the goal.
    18 If additional courses are taken, certainly the motive should not be to shine scholastically or to carve out a prestigious worldly career. Courses should be chosen with care. This magazine has placed emphasis on the dangers of higher learning, and justifiably so, for much higher education opposes the “healthful teaching” of the Bible. (Titus 2:1; 1 Timothy 6:20, 21) Further, since the 1960’s, many schools of advanced learning have become hotbeds of lawlessness and immorality. “The faithful and discreet slave” has strongly discouraged entering that kind of environment. (Matthew 24:12, 45) It must be admitted, however, that nowadays youngsters meet up with these same dangers in high schools and technical colleges and even in the workplace.—1 John 5:19.
    19 Should supplementary education be decided upon, a young Witness would do well, if at all possible, to take this while living at home, thus being able to maintain normal Christian study habits, meeting attendance, and preaching activity. At the outset a proper stand should also be taken on Bible principles. It should be remembered that Daniel and his three Hebrew companions were captives in exile when they were obliged to undertake advanced studies in Babylon, but they consistently kept their integrity. (Daniel, chapter 1) While placing spiritual interests first, young Witnesses in a number of countries have taken courses to equip themselves for part-time work as accountants, tradesmen, teachers, translators, interpreters, or other occupations that supported them adequately in their primary career of pioneering. (Matthew 6:33) A number of these youths have later become traveling overseers or Bethel volunteers.
    A United, Educated People
    20 Among Jehovah’s people, whether a person’s occupation is white-collar, blue-collar, farming, or services, all need to be good students of the Bible and able teachers. Skills acquired by all in reading, studying, and teaching tend to dispel the distinction that the world makes between manual and office workers. This makes for the unity and mutual respect that is particularly visible among the volunteer workers in Bethel homes and on Watch Tower Society construction sites, where spiritual qualities are all-important and required of all. Here, experienced office personnel work joyfully with skilled manual workers, all displaying appreciative love for one another.—John 13:34, 35; Philippians 2:1-4.
    21 Parents, guide your children toward the goal of becoming useful members of the new world society! Young Christians, use your opportunities for education as a means of equipping you to lay hold more fully on your privileges in serving Jehovah! As taught ones, may all of you prove to be well-equipped members of the theocratic society both now and everlastingly in God’s promised “new earth.”—2 Peter 3:13; Isaiah 50:4; 54:13; 1 Corinthians 2:13.

    And now it's time to get out of here. I don't feel like arguing anymore. If I ever do, I'll just head to my favorite auto forum. Thanks for the birthday wishes, btw. Even though I don't celebrate it(I'm getting old!), I still appreciate your good intent.

    Later

  • larc
    larc

    DLJ,

    Good to see you back on the board. How's school going? What courses are you taking this term?

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman

    DLJ,

    Getting an education these days is definitely a way of hedging your bets.

    The Society has taken a lot of flak for their extremist counsel in years past to avoid higher education at all costs. Once again, they are moderating their stance so that they look better to the "world".

    However, you, and other JW youths can benefit from their moderating their stance on this. Get an education...get a decent job...pioneer for awhile if you must. At least you'll be able to have a job (perhaps even a career if you work it right) that will support you and allow you to save for your retirement in 40 or 50 years.

    You will definitely need a retirement plan....trust me on this.

  • trevor
    trevor

    I am so rusty. I had no idea that the Watchtower society had changed its policy towards education since 1985. I guess us apostates just aren't privy to all the latest changes. I knew that God would speed it up in his own time but that is fast.

    I take it all back. You young Witnesses should go to college and get a career underway. Why not marry and raise a family. Put your children through college or university and THEN - Get out there and pioneer - and don't let anything 'fleshy' get in the way.

    Trevor

  • Sunchild
    Sunchild

    >>I suppose I'm fortunate that I'm in the other 25%.

    Yes, you are. But I wasn't, and I'm probably not much older than you. Going by the rest of your post, I think I see the difference: I took all JW rules, written and unwritten, VERY seriously. I honestly believed that the being faithful to the Organization was the only way to make God happy, and the only way to "probably be concealed" when Armageddon came. And above all else, I was determined to be a "good Christian" according to Watchtower specificatons.

    College may not be discouraged competely anymore, but I was there for the Sunday meeting when the article you mentioned elsewhere was studied. I remember having my guilt over not pioneering being assuaged at first... then feeling a little bit sick to my stomach when we got to the end. Deep down, I knew I was in college just because I WANTED to go, and I had no desire or intention to pioneer afterward, and I felt like a selfish, awful person for it. If I REALLY loved Jehovah, I wouldn't be able to wait to leave that awful worldly institution and start peddling magazines for God. But I didn't want to. Not at all. And I felt worthless because of it.

    As for interesting books, I loved science fiction, fantasy and philosophy befor I started studying with the JWs at age 17. Over time, though, I caught on fairly quickly to what was and wasn't Society-approved. I got rid of my science fiction books because they mentioned evolution, premarital sex and/or homosexuality without condemning them. I got rid of my fantasy books because magic was from Satan. I got rid of my philosophy books because they were worldy. And until recently... I abandoned my dream of becoming a writer because I knew my ideas were sinful. I was too afraid of being reprimanded for writing something that might "stumble" someone.

    There's more, but I think you get the idea.

    Like I said, you were lucky. But not everybody is, especially not if they want to be "good" and really fear displeasing God by straying from the Society's path. Oh, and in case you're curious, I left the Org for good at age 24 on February 2, 2000.

    *Rochelle.

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    "Most men complacently accept 'knowledge' as 'truth'. They are sheep, ruled by fear."
    -- Sydney Losstarot, "Vagrant Story."

  • larc
    larc

    Norm,

    After posting to your thread about the abysmal ideas that the WT has on the subject of masterbation, I decided to write here so you and others could read this thread, just in case you hadn't seen it. As some of you may have noticed, Lurker's posts have been deleted. At that time, he was pretty reasonable, although on hindsight, I will say that his attack on JLH was a sign of things to come.

  • larc
    larc

    Excuse me, those all caps letters should be DLJ for Drives Like Jehu.

  • larc
    larc

    I brought this back for new ones on the board to consider.

  • larc
    larc

    Mommie Dark,

    I brought this back up because it reminded me of your thread on punishing children.

  • Andee
    Andee

    "Well, how do you want to die, by fire or ice"?

    A question posed to me, when I was 7, by my 14 year old cousin when we were reading "My Book of Bible Stories" together. It was in response to my asking "What if I wasn't a JW"?

    Granted, she, herself was only a kid at the time, the very thought of dying scared me.....well, nearly to death!

    This cousin, as an adult, wrecked much havoc on my family in the name of obeying Jehovah.

    I have been out of the JW's all of my adult life (long story). How exactly, according to the Org. are the Non-believers suppose to die?

    I hope this question doesn't offend. I pose it sincerely.

    BTW, either form of death, my cousin posed to me, sounded very unappealing!

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