What is our major life decision?

by Bleep 25 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Mackin
    Mackin

    My last thought today is this. When making major life decisions such as what home to buy, where to work, and how to raise children, rational people do not do so on a whim. They may research their options, meditate on their findings and, likely, ask for advice. Only after taking these things into consideration will they make a decision.

    The decision of how we should worship God desrves more of our time and effort than any other decision in life. It will affect how we live our life now, and more important, it will affect our prospect of eternal life in the future.

    While I agree that JW's teach that everyone makes a decision to worship God, and even go so far as to tell bible students that, in reality many do not make such a considered decision.

    Consider, for example the situation of a child brought up in the "truth." Does this child REALLY make a decision to worship God (read: get baptised as a JW), my answer is NO! I say this because this child will have had little or no association with anyone (outside of school) other than other JW's and as a consequence all of their friends/associates/support network will be fellow JW's. Additionally they will have been indoctrinated by their parents to believe that all people who are not JW's are "bad association."

    By the time this child reaches an age where he/she is being pressured into getting baptised, which seems to be occurring at an earlier and earlier age, they will likely have few, if any, friends outside of the "organisation."

    The choice then becomes this: Stay within the JW fold and keep all your friends, or: Choose to live your own life, exercising your own mind, and loose ALL your friends/associates.

    As this decision is usually required to be made at a time when a youth is extremely vulnerable and peer acceptance and relationships are of crucial importance, one has to ask if they really have a choice. Ask any teen if he/she could cope without ANY friends from their peer group and I would wager that the answer will be a resounding NO!

    I do some volunteer work with a youth crisis call centre and a common thread repeated by callers considering suicide is that they feel they have no friends, no peer acceptance , no one who really understands them, no support network.

    So, do JW youths, raised in the organisation, REALLY make an informed choice to serve God? I say NO!!

    There are many witnesses who are there because they are 'locked in," they have nowhere else to go because the cost of leaving is so high. Few are willing/brave enough to make the break away. Perhaps this is why so many "fade away" slowly, building a friendship/support network outside of the JW organisation and then disappearing off the radar.

    JW's is not a religion that young people (and others) make an informed choice about serving god or not, they are forced to, in practice if not in theory.

    If you don't agree, try to leave. See what happens.

    Edited for spelling.

    Edited by - Mackin on 11 June 2002 5:58:46

    Edited by - Mackin on 11 June 2002 6:0:5

  • joannadandy
    joannadandy

    Mackin-I couldn't agree more!

    That was the whole point of my first post in this thread, thank you for stating it better than I...

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    Joanna,

    It is apparent that you have a great thirst for knowledge, accompanied by your reasoning/thought process. It is that latter part that scares JW's about you -- if someone (like you) does too much thinking, that raises too many questions, where the answers cannot be the "pat" answers one usually memorizes at the Watchtower study.

    Yes you are full of "independent thinking", which means you want to think for yourself on important matters of life such as spirituality. How dare you not simply follow the program!! Yes your attitude must be inspired of the Devil !

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    The question of why we go from door to door is under the subject Light for Jehovah's Witnesses. My third post on there. If Scriptures were on my post that means I typed out an article from the Awake and not the Watchtower. I hope It was ok for me to do that since this web page is watching the Watchtower.

    Just a thought but who watches the FBI?

  • Bang
    Bang

    I do have a Bible, even a real one. So how then do you follow this teaching?

    "Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat."

    "And if any animal of which you may eat dies, he who touches it's carcass shall be unclean until the evening,.."

    Bang

    Edited by - Bang on 12 June 2002 17:58:46

  • Bang
    Bang

    It 's mind boggling how much effort the dubs have put into 'rabbitting on'.

    Here's one clue - horses display pride, and you are what you eat, so don't 'be a horse' - and everyone in Belgium hasn't blown it by eating horses.

    Here's another - chew the cud - you may find some spiritual teachings in the spiritual book - afterall, that's what it's for. If my posts include scripture, it definitely won't be from the awake, watchtower or any other thing of such an ilk.

    Bang

    And I'm also saying that Peter et.al understood scripture when they said not to 'eat blood'.

    I'll leave you to ponder the cloven hoof mystery, but you should have at least realised about how rabbits behave.

    Edited by - Bang on 12 June 2002 20:56:54

  • Bang
    Bang

    Not up for it any more Bleep?

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    Yea the answere should come from the scriptures.

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    Wow here it is! We are Borg!
    The Faithful Slave' and Its Governing Body

    "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?"-MATTHEW 24:45.

    JEHOVAH is a God of order. He is also the Source of all legitimate authority. Confident in the loyalty of his faithful creatures, Jehovah is willing to delegate authority. The one to whom he has delegated the most authority is his Son, Jesus Christ. Indeed, God "subjected all things under his feet, and made him head over all things to the congregation."-Ephesians 1:22.

    2 The apostle Paul calls the Christian congregation "God's household" and says that Jehovah's faithful Son, Jesus Christ, was placed over this household. (1 Timothy 3:15; Hebrews 3:6) In turn, Christ delegates authority to the members of God's household. We can see this from Jesus' words recorded at Matthew 24:45-47. He said: "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings."

    The First-Century House Manager

    3 From our careful study of the Scriptures, we know that the spirit-anointed members of God's household at any given time collectively make up "the faithful and discreet slave," "steward," or "house manager." Individually, the members of Jehovah's household are termed "domestics" or "body of attendants."-Matthew 24:45; Luke 12:42; Reference Bible, footnote.

    4 Some months before his death, Jesus raised this question, recorded at Luke 12:42: "Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time?" Then, a few days before he died, Jesus likened himself to a man about to travel abroad, who summoned his slaves and committed his belongings to them.-Matthew 25:14.

    5 When did Jesus assign others to look after his belongings? This occurred after his resurrection. In his familiar words found at Matthew 28:19, 20, Christ first gave those who would become part of his composite house manager an extended assignment to teach and make disciples. By individually witnessing "to the most distant part of the earth," the attendants would expand the missionary field that Jesus had begun to cultivate during his earthly ministry. (Acts 1:8) This involved their acting as "ambassadors substituting for Christ." As "stewards of sacred secrets of God," they would make disciples and would dispense spiritual food to them.-2 Corinthians 5:20; 1 Corinthians 4:1, 2.

    The Household's Governing Body

    6 Collectively, spirit-anointed Christians were to be the master's steward, or house manager, assigned to dispense timely spiritual food to the individual members of the household of God. Between the years 41 C.E. and 98 C.E., members of the first-century steward class were divinely inspired to write 5 historical accounts, 21 letters, and the book of Revelation for the benefit of their brothers. These inspired writings contain fine spiritual food for the domestics, that is, individual anointed ones of God's household.

    7 While all anointed Christians collectively form God's household, there is abundant evidence that Christ chose a small number of men out of the slave class to serve as a visible governing body. The early history of the congregation shows that the 12 apostles, including Matthias, were the foundation of the first-century governing body. Acts 1:20-26 provides us with an indication of this. In connection with a replacement for Judas Iscariot, reference is there made to "his office of oversight" and to "this ministry and apostleship."

    8 Such office of oversight included the responsibility of the apostles to appoint suitable men to positions of service and to organize the ministry. But it meant more. It also involved teaching and clarifying points of doctrine. Fulfilling Jesus' promise recorded at John 16:13, "the spirit of the truth" was to guide the Christian congregation progressively into all the truth. Right from the start, those who embraced the word and became baptized, anointed Christians continued devoting themselves to "the teaching of the apostles." In fact, the reason why seven recommended men were appointed to the necessary business of distributing material food was so that "the twelve" could remain free to 'devote themselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word.'-Acts 2:42; 6:1-6.

    9 It seems that at first the governing body was composed exclusively of Jesus' apostles. But would it remain that way? About the year 44 C.E., the apostle James, the brother of John, was executed by Herod Agrippa I. (Acts 12:1, 2) Apparently no effort was made to replace him as an apostle, as was done in the case of Judas. Why not? No doubt this was because James died faithful, the first of the 12 apostles to die. On the other hand, Judas was a wicked defector and had to be replaced in order to bring back to 12 the number of the foundation stones of spiritual Israel.-Ephesians 2:20; Revelation 21:14.

    10 The original members of the first-century governing body were apostles, men who had walked with Jesus and had been witnesses of his death and resurrection. (Acts 1:21, 22) But this situation was to change. As the years went by, other Christian men gained spiritual stature and were appointed as elders in the Jerusalem congregation. By the year 49 C.E. at the latest, the governing body had been expanded to include not only the remaining apostles but also a number of other older men in Jerusalem. (Acts 15:2) So the makeup of the governing body was not rigidly fixed, but God evidently guided things so that it changed to fit the circumstances of his people. Christ, the active Head of the congregation, used this enlarged governing body to settle the important doctrinal matter of non-Jewish Christians' being circumcised and submitting to the Law of Moses. The governing body wrote a letter explaining its decision and issued decrees for observance.-Acts 15:23-29.

    A Time of Accounting for the House Manager

    11 Individually and as congregations, the early Christians appreciated this strong lead given by the governing body. After the congregation in Syrian Antioch read the letter from the governing body, they rejoiced over the encouragement. As other congregations received the information and observed the decrees, they "continued to be made firm in the faith and to increase in number from day to day." (Acts 16:5) Manifestly, God blessed this arrangement.-Acts 15:30, 31.

    12 But let us look at another aspect of this significant matter. In his illustration of the minas, Jesus likened himself to a man of noble birth who traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power for himself and then returned. (Luke 19:11, 12) As a result of his resurrection in 33 C.E., Jesus Christ was exalted to the right hand of God, where he was to sit until his enemies would be placed as a stool for his feet.-Acts 2:33-35.

    13 In a parallel illustration, the parable of the talents, Jesus stated that after a long time, the master came to settle accounts with his slaves. To the slaves who proved faithful, the master said: "You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master." But regarding the unfaithful slave, he declared: "Even what he has will be taken away from him. And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside."-Matthew 25:21-23, 29, 30.

    14 After a long time-nearly 19 centuries-Christ was vested with kingly power in 1914, at the end of "the appointed times of the nations." (Luke 21:24) Shortly thereafter, he "came and settled accounts" with his slaves, spirit-anointed Christians. (Matthew 25:19) What did Jesus expect of them individually and collectively? The steward's assignment continued as it had been since the first century. Christ had entrusted talents to individuals-"to each one according to his own ability." Hence, Jesus expected proportionate results. (Matthew 25:15) Applicable here is the rule at 1 Corinthians 4:2, which states: "What is looked for in stewards is for a man to be found faithful." Putting the talents to work meant faithfully acting as ambassadors of God, making disciples and dispensing spiritual truths to them.-2 Corinthians 5:20.

    The "Slave" and Its Governing Body as the Time of the End Drew Near

    15 Jesus expected anointed Christians collectively to be acting as a faithful steward, giving his body of attendants "their measure of food supplies at the proper time." (Luke 12:42) According to Luke 12:43, Christ said: "Happy is that slave, if his master on arriving finds him doing so!" This indicates that for some time before Christ arrived to settle accounts with his spirit-anointed slaves, they would have been dispensing spiritual food to members of the Christian congregation, God's household. Whom did Christ find doing so when he returned with kingly power in 1914 and proceeded to inspect the house of God in 1918?-Malachi 3:1-4; Luke 19:12; 1 Peter 4:17.

    16 As the long period of Jesus' waiting at Jehovah's right hand drew to a close, it gradually became apparent who was giving spiritual food supplies to Christ's domestics even in the time prior to 1914. Do you think it was Christendom's churches? Certainly not, for they were deeply involved in politics. They had been willing tools of colonial expansion and had tried to outdo one another to prove their patriotism, thus encouraging nationalism. This soon brought heavy bloodguilt upon them, that is, when they gave their active support to political governments involved in the first world war. Spiritually, their faith had been weakened by Modernism. A spiritual crisis was brought about because many of their clergy became easy prey to higher criticism and evolution. No spiritual nourishment could be expected from Christendom's clergy!

    17 Similarly, no nourishing spiritual food was forthcoming from those anointed Christians who were more concerned with their personal salvation than with putting the Master's talent to work. They turned out to be "sluggish," unfit to take care of the Master's belongings. Hence, they were thrown "into the darkness outside," where the churches of Christendom still are.-Matthew 25:24-30.

    18 On arriving to inspect his slaves in 1918, therefore, whom did the Master, Jesus Christ, find giving to his body of attendants their measure of food supplies at the proper time? Well, by then, who had given sincere truth-seekers the correct understanding of the ransom sacrifice, the divine name, the invisibility of Christ's presence, and the significance of 1914? Who had exposed the falsehood of the Trinity, immortality of the human soul, and hellfire? And who had warned of the dangers of evolution and spiritism? The facts show that it was the group of anointed Christians associated with the publishers of the magazine Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence, now called The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom.

    19 In its issue of November 1, 1944, The Watchtower stated: "In 1878, forty years before the Lord's coming to the temple in 1918, there was a class of sincere consecrated Christians that had broken away from the hierarchic and clergy organizations and who sought to practice Christianity . . . The following year, namely, in July, 1879, that the truths which God through Christ provided as 'food in due season' might be regularly distributed to all his household of consecrated children, this magazine, The Watchtower, began to be published."

    20 Supplying information on the development of the modern-day Governing Body, the December 15, 1971, issue of The Watchtower explained: "Five years later [in 1884] Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society was incorporated and served as an 'agency' to minister spiritual food to thousands of sincere persons seeking to know God and to understand his Word . . . Dedicated, baptized, anointed Christians became associated with that Society at headquarters in Pennsylvania. Whether on the Board of Directors or not, they rendered themselves available for special work of the 'faithful and discreet slave' class. They aided in the feeding and directing of the slave class, and thus a governing body made its appearance. This was evidently under the guidance of Jehovah's invisible active force or holy spirit. Also, under the direction of the Head of the Christian congregation, Jesus Christ."

    21 In 1918, when Jesus Christ inspected those claiming to be his slaves, he found an international group of Christians publishing Bible truths for use both inside the congregation and outside in the preaching work. In 1919 it truly turned out to be as Christ had foretold: "Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings." (Matthew 24:46, 47) These true Christians entered into the joy of their Master. Having shown themselves "faithful over a few things," they were appointed by the Master to be "over many things." (Matthew 25:21) The faithful slave and its Governing Body were in place, ready for a widened assignment. How glad we should be that this was so, for loyal Christians are richly benefiting from the devoted work of the faithful slave and its Governing Body!

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    I am sure that a God of order would want to give information to his people at the proper time. And it should go along with the Bible.

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