Did you use drugs and go...INSANE!?

by refiners fire 42 Replies latest jw friends

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  2SYN

  LOLOLOLOL @ Refiners! You're crazy, man!
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  refiners fire

  Pris.

  what, youre not coming down this time. bugger!

  Never mind, canberra baby, canberra, hehe
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  Undecided

  Hi All,

  From what I have seen happen to people who get hooked on drugs, you would have to be stupid or crazy to use them even once. Don't you value your life? Is your life so bad that you must resort to drugs to make it fun? I don't understand the thinking here!!

  Ken P.
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  Francois

  I must say here that I've smoked at least a boxcar full of dope of all kinds. Everything from the best Maui Wowie to clean, green, minty homegrown, to some of that stuff that tasted like it had been shipped from Columbia in the bottom of the original ark. I've never had any such reaction as you describe. And I'm convinced that any experience even remotely like the one you describe is the result of the pot being laced with something else. Someone mentioned PCP, and your reaction sounds exactly like a really bad PCP reaction.

  A friend of mine who worked at Georgia Tech and I made a glass water pipe in the glass blowing lab at Tech, filled it with lab grade ethanol and smoked dope through it. I did have an out of body experience doing that, but it was very laid back.

  I've done coke, mescaline, and peyote. The only time I've had a bad experience was with some coke once that was obviously cut with speed. And I hate anything that revs my motor. It took hours to come down from that, and I never did Coke ever again.

  However, as far as drugs are concerned, the most dangerous of the "druggie drugs" IMHO is ANY opiate. They don't call it tickling the dragon's tail for nothing. I was always terrified of heroin, morphine, opium, and and and all derivatives. Must be something to it. Every person I have ever known who was into opiates is either dead from suicide or dead from overdose. There is an emotional depression associated with attempting to get off opiates that's worse than anything I've ever heard of.

  Then there's the legal drugs. Alcohol and tobacco have done, and continue to do, more damage to individuals and to society in general than all the illegal drugs put together. In the US every year around 50,000 people are killed in automobile crashes. More than fifty percent of those deaths involve alcohol. And tobacco? We don't even need to discuss it.

  Give me some dope to smoke and forget about tobacco. It was a dark day that first time someone rolled up a dried tobacco leaf and smoked it.

  This is a long way of saying I don't think pot was the cause of what you describe. Your dope was laced with something. All the more reason to legalize growing your own. And contrary to what the US gummint says, dope is absolutely not a narcotic.

  Sorry to rattle on like this. Time is hanging on my hands today I guess.

  Francois
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  teenyuck

  Never went insane from pot....as noted above, the Doritos (or any food near by) chased and demanded to be eaten. Yours had to have something in it. The giggles and munchies are what all of my friends got.

  While trying LSD the experiences you relate come back to life. Did it the first time while visiting a local haunted house, around Halloween. I was a sophmore in college and came home that weekend. My evil wroldly friend offered me a little square that had Mickey Mouse on it.

  She said put in in your mouth and suck it then swallow. I did and while going through the haunted house we freaked. Those chain saw wielding actors seemed so real!

  8 hours later, when I came down, Whew!

  Did it a few more times. Easier and cheaper than coke and much longer lasting. Problem is you cannot remember too much. (at least I could not)

  I have had numerous neurological exams due to adult onset epilepsy...they assure me that the drugs I did in college did not cause that....they also told me I am not crazy, so there, a real doc said it!
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  DINKY

  I've had some pretty scary acid trips. Also, staying up five nights doing speed and not sleeping caused some pretty gnarly paranoid delusions. But pot has never made me hallucinate (although it is classified as one).

  I can say that although all the heavy drugs I did certainly ravaged me physically, pot is the one that seriously fucked me up spiritually. Once I was high, I felt completely isolated from everyone around me, like I was in a bubble. I got so comfortable in there. Quitting smoking pot was the hardest thing I've ever done.

  Dinky
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  invisible

  Started smoking cigarettes in the fall of '96, followed afterwards by smoking pot, next shed loads of magic mushrooms, followed over time by quite a quantity of Esctasy pills, lots of LSD, a fair amount of coke, speed and quite a bit else besides.

  The point is, you never do anything unless you're in the right frame of mind for it and you feel at ease with the company you have. Can understand how it might send you rather insane, but that was half the 'fun' of facing your own demons and telling them, those emotions, what they could do to go screw themselves.

  A path I certainly wouldn't reccommend to everyone, depends on the individuals disposition I guess.

  I've never taken anti-depressants in my life, cannabis I still take in every day, found it to be the only thing that's worked for me, relaxes my body down just nicely, don't get any hangover feelings the next morning, nor any feelings of paranoia, but that's just me.

  Celtic Mark
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  D wiltshire

  WHen I was a teenager(30 yrs ago). I smoked about a quarter once of some panama red that freaked me out until I finally fell asleep. I wanted to see how high I could get.

  I think some people should not smoke pot because of the bad effects that it can have on certain ones, but that others are helped by it. Some use it to fight depression or for other health benifits.

  Paranoia occurs to all but with proper education can be overcome as one learns to let go and lets the stone run its coarse. Panic has a snowball effect.

  I started to use MJ about a year and ahalf ago again after 29 yrs of obstanance, it lead to me comming out of mind control by allowing me to look at things in a different way, perhaps because my minds thoughts were scatter enough to allow me to come to the realization that the dubs were a cult, or maybe because of the intense focus it gave me that lead to my relization I was under mind control.

  I often go for long walks(alone) were i smoke a joint and many times durring these walks have come to a better understandin of myself and other. This has helped me very much, I don't want to live my life stoned, but do appreciate the thearaputic value of MJ.

  Some stories have actually been written of person learning to think better with the aid of MJ while it may be rare there are people that do funtion better if they are mildly stoned.

  Silicon Valley and the internet developement have been attributed to in part, the fact that many who were instrumental key players used psycoactive chemicals in a keeping their mind more open to ideas. There a book in the Sunnyvale libriary on the subect of tripping that documents many trips had by some of these persons and explains how it helped them. True? well I would keep an open mind.
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  bonovox

  I was watching Black Hawk Down last night while smoking a nice spliff and I could swear I saw J-LO strip for the soldiers and....

  HAHA...funny post refined...you were being funny, right??

  Actually my younger brother was given weed laced with PCP and he had a really freaked out experience, but in the 13+ years I've smoked ganga I've never had anything similar.

  Everybody's different, I suppose.
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  peaceloveharmony

  i've used a fair share of drugs in my life but i've never gone insane. i've never known anyone to go insane from weed or trip off of it, makes me think it may have been laced but you never know i guess how a drug will interact with everyone. weed has got to be my favorite drug, i don't crave it when i don't have it and i love the high i get from it when i do have it :P acid is an interesting drug but one i will not do anymore. last trip was a bad one and i don't feel like doing that to myself. shrooms are fun once in a while, i like to do those when camping or out in nature. tried X once and LOVED it but that's why i've stayed away from it hehe, i know my own limitations. not saying i wouldn't do it again, just that i don't search it out. want to try peyote in a bad way. never done coke, i'm too hyper for that i think and never had a desire to try herion. used to smoke opium mixed with weed a lot one summer but that got to be way too intense and was the only time i got paranoid so no more of that. done a bunch of speed before too but not anymore (i use to love how my hair felt like it was growing when on speed hehe)

  as for drugs and why people choose to do them even knowing the possible dangers, for me, i wanted to see for myself. when i realized that i could smoke weed everyday and still function (go to work, go to school...) i thought this isn't so bad so i continued to do it. i think like with alcohol, some people are just not able to cope with drugs and should stay away from them. but it is so individual that statements like drugs are bad are just ridiculous. for some people, drugs are bad. my 20yr old brother is one of those people that just should stay away from all drugs except those prescribed by his doctor for his bi-polar. he doesn't need the added stuff, he's already crazy ;)

  i also want to state, i've never been prescribed anti depressants or any drug by a doc for my mood. i feel i have a handle on my drug use and i don't feel i ABUSE drugs. all in moderation. in fact, alcohol would be the only thing i feel that i overuse at times (binge drinking).

  also, just want to state i'm all for legalization of marijuana and hemp. stupid, dumb, archaic laws!