by JT 19 Replies latest jw friends
i wonder who were they trying to protect with the "new light". Or what "incidents" were they trying to water down or cover up with the "new light".
As you know "law maker" make laws just to achive or prevent a particular objective. Do lobbyst have anything to do with this?
JT.
never think about who wrote this book, wasnt it the famus Ray, Franz?
Seems like he have some odd oppinons in this matter, why you dont ask him why?
this show also a bigg weekness inn the JW system, can wee condemd others,?
isnt it Jesus who must do this,.
how is it widh yourself, are your conscience cleen or have you been a part in this , telling others what to do or not to do?
Well, I swan, if sticking your dick up a dog's ass don't make you "one flesh" with it what does?
"An individual cannot, for instance, Scripturally marry a person of the same sex and become 'one flesh' with that one in the way God ordained when uniting Adam and Eve in wedlock."
Yeah, and if sticking your dick up a guys..., well, you know, don't make you "one flesh" with the other guy what does?
Earl Butts (what a name) had it right when he said, "You no playa da game, you no maka de rules." The GB doesn't play the game, doesn't understand normal human relationships, has no first hand experience (so far as we know), so why should anybody pay any attention to them?
And if they claim they're guided by the holy spirit in these matters, the I want to know what are the mechanics of that "leading"? Do they hear voices? Do they engage in automatic writing, automatic speaking, automatic anything - any function of the marginal consicouness at all? And if they can't answer that question, then I want the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses to answer to these questions:
Since you cannot account for how you receive spirit direction, and since your "guidance" is so ever-changing and even contradictory, why should anyone put any stock in what you've got to say AT ALL? What is the source of your authority that any human should listen to you? What is it? If you can't answer that question then you need to be stripped of your tax exempt status. NOW! If you feel you shouldn't be shorn of your tax status, state WHY.
Francois
Edited by - Francois on 24 June 2002 7:14:26
Hi HappyMan,
JT.
never think about who wrote this book, wasnt it the famus Ray, Franz?
Seems like he have some odd oppinons in this matter, why you dont ask him why?
this show also a bigg weekness inn the JW system, can wee condemd others,?
isnt it Jesus who must do this,.
how is it widh yourself, are your conscience cleen or have you been a part in this , telling others what to do or not to do?
Uh, JT, even if it was Ray Franz that wrote those articles, are you telling me that the "Theocratic" relationship that was put in place in the early 1970-'s to mimic the Apostles arrangement, and to bring you in harmony with God' arrangement isn't working? How can that be, after all, this is Jehovah's arrangement, not yours.
More importantly, I would hope that someone in the writing department besides Ray Franz was reading the stuff being published, and I would hope that the rest of the GB would have some say. Let's say for instance that Ray did manage to 'sneak' something by and publish it that the rest of the GB didn't agree upon (Of course that cannot happen, because we all know that the entire GB is unanamous in their decisions -- it couldn't be a 'vote' arrangement like that which occurs in the rest of Christendom) wouldn't you expect that the GB would hear about the bad stuff, and immediatly print a retraction (After all, this is effecting JW's lives in a very signifigant way -- They would be required to protect the flock)..
So, the fact that they do not "vote", but they all unanamoulsy make decisions together, the fact that no retraction was printed, and the fact that this 'idea' was presented in multiple WT publications staring in the 1972 WT would would suggest to me that
A.) THe WT had to know about what was being put in print -- TO think the GB wasn't aware of this 'doctrine' for over 10 years is unimaginable, as if they were, then that alone shows that they are not 'tending to the flock'
B.) Since the GB doesn't vote, but unaniomously decides on doctrine, then it would be safe to say that they unanomously decided this doctrine. To believe that it happened any other way would mean that the way they decide (what they publicly declare to the R&F) things is not the way it actually happens. Again, this would prove that they are lying to the R&F (Grounds for DF).
C.) They have adjusted themselves to the "theocratic" arrangement according to them so if you claim that this doctrine was 'snuck' in then how can you claim that this cannot happen again, and how can you have confidence in anything written in the WT literature, and how can you claim that god's theocratic arrangement is flawed, and allowed such a thing to happen?
Edited by - ItsJustlittleoldme on 24 June 2002 10:10:16
I'm just curious how the good JW, Happy Man, knows who the anonymous writer or writers of the Aid book were. Has Happy Man read Crisis of Conscience, in which Ray Franz, whom Happy Man clearly does not trust, asserts that he (Franz) was among the writers of the Aid Book? Since Happy Man does not believe what Franz says, why does he believe that Franz was involved with writing that book? Why doesn't Happy Man write to the Watchtower to tell them what he has learned reading Crisis, and to confirm who the writers of the Aid book were? In doing so, Happy Man should be sure to give his name and congregation...
ROFL @ NeonMadman
NM.
happy man have read Ray franz book, why not?
IJL.
good qestions.
But jehova will punish them as he did widh israel when they was making bad things, notice that even the Kings have punishment if they dont obeyd Jehova, Gb, can sure bee punished by jehova if they,
dont follow his word.
Happy Man puts Mark Twain to shame.
JT, what I especially like is the wording.
"This is an AMPLIFICATION and an ADJUSTMENT."
no, they do not say
"This is a CORRECTION."
Can you imagine the poor sister who had to have sex with her husband after he'd just done who knows what with the family sheep?
I hate these people.
Lisa
NEVER has the Watchtower Society admitted to having to make a CORRECTION.
Organ transplants, blood doctrine, the interpretation of the term "generation".. the list goes on and on.
The hypocrisy, contradictions, and deception is abundant.
No, instead they display their arrogance by interjecting the term ADJUSTMENT, implying that they are above reproach and NEVER wrong.
LDH said:
I hate these people.
So do I.
I hate these people.
I hate them more!
