Evidently, James didn't have the benefit of this teaching.
James 3:1: "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, knowing that we will receive heavier judgment."
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Evidently, James didn't have the benefit of this teaching.
James 3:1: "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, knowing that we will receive heavier judgment."
Did they actually say that anyone not "reaching out" was going to lose their salvation?
No, they didn't say, "If you don't reach out you lose your salvation." That would have been too obvious. The bro giving the part said that many loved Jesus but would not become his followers, choosing to follow him from a distance. He then went on about how some today love Jesus but follow from a distance. And then drew the comparison to "reaching out". I do wish I had his exact words recorded, but. . .
He said those who followed Jesus at a distance then lost the chance at life, and today those who do not follow Jesus closely, but rather at a distance also will lose out on everlasting life. Then he said that baptized males who held back from "reaching out" for MS/Elder were in effect loving Jesus, but following at a distance.
The inference was plain for anyone to see, unless they are blindly following the governing body.
Ahem....."called it", in an earlier post:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/292830001/anyone-have-recording-imitate-christ-convention
...or you can just review my compact summary:
-- You're not doing enough, you miserable worms!
-- Obey us! Obey us! OBEY US!
-- College is bad, Facebook is bad, sex is bad, worldly people are bad, video games are bad, porn is bad.
-- You're STILL not doing enough!
-- Give us money
-- Aren't you glad we love you so much? Now OBEY US!But hey , raising kids ,doing the housework ,food shopping ,doing the clothes washing
It wasn't said in so many words, but they went on about the birds of the field and the lilies in one part with the very strong admonition to just do more in the serve us, more study, and Jehovah would do the rest. After all Jesus said God took care of the birds, and the flowers were clothed more impressively than Solomon. Then he said something that made me think WTF again. He said Jesus chose to give up his carpentry work and become Messiah. And here all along I thought he was prophesied to be the Messiah ahead of time, and not that he made that choice as a human. Silly me!
if the GB stuck to the qualifications listed in the 1Tim 3 and Titus 1 then more 'would' qualify.
True enough. Actually there isn't a baptized male that wouldn't qualify IF those Bible qualifications alone were strictly, and consistently adhered too. It is the imperfect humans who go beyond what is written in their personal interpretations of those scriptures that twist them into something that many males will never meet.
I often wonder the following:
How exactly are "the meek to inherit the Earth" when they are made to feel like they don't even belong in the Kingdom Hall?
it is so nice to see jehovah cares so much about the birds and not the millions of kids that die of hunger O wait that's prophecy so that's okay. Turds
you get treated better working at McDonald's that you do in the congregation.
It's happifying to know what the JW leaders think of their underlings.
GB are above god and certainly above Jesus.
The anointed are nuts.
Those that leave are mentally diseased.
The rank and file males are coffin fodder if they don't reach out.
Sisters...well, duh!
Wow...this must be the truth(R)!
Sparrow, that made me horny. I may need therapy.
DD