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by Bleep 28 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  Robert_V_Frazier

  Bleep, there is some good advice in that article. But it refuses to give the most important information on the subject. Namely, if your child has been molested, from touching the sexual organs right on up through rape, a crime has been committed. The authorities (read: police and Child Protective Services) must be notified immediately. An arrest may well need to be made. It is not up to the parents to decide what happens to the molester. That's for the courts to determine. It's not up to the KH elders, either. They lack the knowledge and the authority to deal with this. It's none of their business. It's not up to the WBTS or its representatives. A crime has been committed. There is a judicial process that must be followed. Failure to do so is also a crime -- obstruction of justice. Failure to report the crime is aiding and abetting the criminal.

  They left that out of the article. Why do you think that is?

  Robert Frazier
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  Bleep

  Thank you all for your scriptual advice. I learned so much.
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  crawdad2

  hi bleep,........... how about if you put a little blame on the gov body for making their organization a pedophile paradise by punising victims and harboring pedophiles?....... matt 18:6

  how nice of the gov body and their loyal elders to silence victims, and harbor pedophiles... while using the bible.......1tim 5:19............................ 2 tim 3:5...having a form of godly devotion, but proving false to its power.....

  now............. let's discuss these scriptures.......bleep!
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  Bleep

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=29498&site=3

  My first script play!
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  Bleep

  If you want to know why ask the Official JW web site. I don't like talking to angry EX JW's.
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  crawdad2

  hi bleep.........are you just a liar?......... i thought you just said you wanted scriptural advice?...... you don't want any?......... please make up your mind.
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  Mary

  ".....If abuse occurs, she may be less able to discern it and take positive action. Then the children pay an awful price for the mother's action.Thus, abuse may pass from one generation to the next......"

  Bleep, you don't know how right you are.........a friend of mine was sexually abused by her grandfather when she was very young. This same man also sexually abused his own son, who in turn, became a pedophile himself and did time in the slammer for sexually abusing his own granddaughter. The only reason he was disfellowshipped is because the other grandparents made sure everyone at the hall found out and they called the cops. It was probably tolerated because the pedophile himself wasn't an elder.

  The grandfather who raped my girlfriend had himself been sexually abused when he was young, not only by his father, but also by his uncle and other "friends" of the family. Of course, this was in the 1920's where it was totally ignored in all families, but god only knows how far back it stretches................pretty sad indeed...........
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  NewWay

  Parents cannot prevent all bad things happening to their children. However, they can educate themselves regarding potential threats to their well-being. Here is the title of a book that really was a help to me and prevented a serious problem from happening with one of my children:
  
  "Protecting The Gift - Keeping Children And Teenagers Safe (And Parents Sane)"
  by Gavin De Becker
  ISBN 0-385-33309-09
  
  It focuses on the subject of sexual predators and other violent people, and instructs on recognizing clues to help detect them. Most of all it tells you to rely on your instincts and pay serious attention to 'gut' feelings of fear or uneasiness. A wonderful book that I would recommend to all parents.
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  larc

  Thank God, we live in an era, where this evil is getting public exposure. With the combination of more educational materials, counselors attuned to the issues, police who are learning how to conduct a proper investigation, forsensic science which can help determine the culpablity of the accussed, etc. we have come a long way as a society. It is too bad that the WT Society is so far behind the times, have to be forced to change by the public exposure they are getting. Of course, they are fighting change, every step of the way. I feel sorry for those at Bethel who are enlighted and know what changes should be made, but are stifled by the old guard.
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  NewWay

  Here is some practical scriptural advice:
  
  "Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves. For those ruling are an object of fear, not to the good deed, but to the bad. Do you, then, want to have no fear of the authority? Keep doing good, and you will have praise from it; for it is God's minister to you for your good. But if you are doing what is bad, be in fear; for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword; for it is God's minister, an avenger to express wrath upon the one practicing what is bad." - Romans 13:1-4 (NWT).
  
  Child abuse is a crime, and therefore is not something that comes under the jurisdiction of any religion. Even the scriptures point to the fact that the superior authorities (law-enforcing government agencies) are appointed by God himself to deal with wrongdoers - obviously those that are criminals. So, if you know of child abuse, report it to the 'superior' authorities.