Bad
It is a catch 22 with you people. If I leave, I am brainwashed. If I stay, I am disobedient. Trying to please you people in this place is like trying to please a fickel woman.
Lady
I apply Colossians 2:4 across the board.
Comfort
Monthly Complaint
by comforter 64 Replies latest jw friends
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Farkel
comforter,
: The people that frequent this place concentrate on negativity and tearing down.
You just proved your own point.
Farkel
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comforter
Farkel
Trying to dismantle a negative thang is a positive task.
Comforter
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AlanF
Comforter, JW defenders like you are irrelevant to most on this board. We know your kind and we are completely insulated from your foolishness. Been there, done that, and all.
Your words are stereotypically JW-defender. You have no specifics, only sweeping generalities: "All criticisms are lies." "You only say negative things." And on and on.
You cannot show why more than a small number of criticisms are lies. You know it, and so you don't even try. You're an intellectual coward, yet you tell yourself you're a brave fighter for righteousness. We see right through you because we've seen it all before. That's why we got away from a religion that produces people like you.
Here's a specific criticism: Why does the Watchtower Society in principle say that two witnesses to separate instances of child molestation are sufficient to convict a molester before a judicial committee, but in practice rarely applies this rule? Can you answer specifically? Of course not.
Only negative things, you say? Not so. Telling someone to get out of the way of an oncoming train is a very positive thing. At least, it is to normal people. Of course, to people like you who insist the train isn't there, the warnings sound like nonsense. But the problem isn't with the normal people -- it's with you, who have blinded yourselves to the train that is about to hit you.
AlanF
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Farkel
comforter,
you said:
: Trying to dismantle a negative thang is a positive task.
Yes, it is and if it takes bringing up negative things about a negative cult that has negative affects on its members and makes them lead negative lives, then it is a positive task.
Your entire argument on this thread therefore collapses through your very own words.
Farkel
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StinkyPantz
Comforter-
You're still here?
You make all these claims as to why you're REALLY here, but it's obvious that you long for attention. It amazes me that everytime you start a post about 100 people respond. I bet you just LOVE that, huh? We are people that are trying to get on with our lives and have a support system and for some reason you won't let us be. The only time I ever sense negativity is when you insult me by generalizing the entire board.
I don't think it's fair to ask you to leave but nothing you do here is constructive. YOU are my primary source of negativity. . . .
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comforter
???Your words are stereotypically JW-defender. You have no specifics, only sweeping generalities: "All criticisms are lies." "You only say negative things." And on and on.
You cannot show why more than a small number of criticisms are lies.???
I am not bound to show that criticisms here are lies because that was not what I complained about in my intro post. You want specifics? Look at the main page of this board and you will find plenty of evidence, if you want to see it, that you people (ex jw) are fixated on negativity.
???You know it, and so you don't even try. You're an intellectual coward, yet you tell yourself you're a brave fighter for righteousness. We see right through you because we've seen it all before. That's why we got away from a religion that produces people like you.???
You got away from my religion because you could not live up to the moral life that it and the Bible requires. By the way, what is your current religious status, AF?
???Here's a specific criticism: Why does the Watchtower Society in principle say that two witnesses to separate instances of child molestation are sufficient to convict a molester before a judicial committee, but in practice rarely applies this rule? Can you answer specifically? Of course not.???
Since you have already provided the answer, I will not bother to reply. Mr know it all.
???Only negative things, you say? Not so. Telling someone to get out of the way of an oncoming train is a very positive thing. At least, it is to normal people.???
You better make sure you are not inadvertently directing someone to stand in front of a train. God's day of wrath is coming and you better be on the right side when it comes. Are you? Else you bout to git hit by train too.
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writerpen
Comforter,
You stated, "If you believe the Bible...."
What I believe is that the Bible is a book of writings that directs us toward a relationship with God. However, I also use "reason" when reading the Bible and realize that men wrote it. Yea, yea, the "Bible is inspired by God" (2 Tim 3:16). But even a man wrote that verse, and it does not say that everything written in the Bible is how God feels - for example the suppression of women.
*** Rbi8 1 Timothy 2:8-12 *** 9 Likewise I desire the women to adorn themselves in well-arranged dress, with modesty and soundness of mind, not with styles of hair braiding and gold or pearls or very expensive garb, 10 but in the way that befits women professing to reverence God, namely, through good works.
11 Let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence.
If you see the Bible as a divine product, then these are Gods restrictions on the behavior and roles of women. Indeed if your religion, which continues to prohibit women from holding position, believes that this is how God feels about the matter, then wouldnt he also feel strongly about little girls and women with braided hair, gold jewelry, etc.? Explain why it is that verse 11 & 12 must be adhered to, yet not verse 9.
From this argument, I base my belief on the entire Bible. That it was written by men 2000 years ago. I do believe that it helps to direct us toward a spiritual life, yet not that every word is that of Gods.
Comforter, I bet you can't even tell me how the Bible came to be in its form. Can you? And, if you can, then please explain the irony of how it came to be in its form with your belief about religious leaders.
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Sirona
(not a) Comforter
Talk about being negative. At least I never used such fowl language with you. You must be one of the ungodly atheists in this place. Bug off!
LOL - WRONG! Not an atheist actually.
By the way, its FOUL not FOWL. Fowl are chickens, etc. LOL
Oh and about FOUL language. Saying F**k is appropriate with a twonk like you and I'm sure you're used to hearing it in your everyday life (if your attitude here is anything to go by).
Sirona
PS I wrote f**k this time because I remembered Simon doesn't want us swearing...sorry si.
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SpiceItUp
comforter I have only 2 questions for you...
1- Do you beleive in the Bible and if so try to follow its practices?
2 - If you answered yes to question #1...why do you judge us..as in the Bible it says that judgement is for God alone. Do not judge others lest you be judged. So why do you judge us?
These are are serious and honest questions and I would like an answer if you really are a christian that believes in god.
Thank you for your time and may peace be with you.
Spice
(BTW---you want positivity..why dont you check out my thread...Thought for the day..I am sure it will overwhelm you with positivity and perhaps even brighten you day.) ((((Comforter))))