porndealer supports silentlambs.org?

by Bernd 37 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Tucky
    Tucky

    Since issues of violence against women and children and porn are closely related at the very least in peoples' minds, why on earth would silentlambs affiliate with this guy? I don't want to believe it, but if it's true, Mr. Bowen needs to make a statement. Just hope it isn't Clinton - ish!

  • Bernd
    Bernd

    Hi all

    for com - domains try

    http://network-tools.com/

    greetings

    bernd

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    domain: world-of-bodies.com
    created: Oct 12 2000
    last-changed: Oct 12 2001
    registration-expiration: Oct 12 2002

    nserver: ns7.schlund.de
    nserver: ns8.schlund.de

    registrant-title: Herr
    registrant-firstname: Hans-Georg
    registrant-lastname: Kolpak
    registrant-organization: kolpak-online
    registrant-street: Am Doerrenbach 22
    registrant-pcode: 54411
    registrant-city: Hermeskeil
    registrant-ccode: DE
    registrant-phone: +49 6503 8 00 781
    registrant-fax: +49 6503 8 00 782
    registrant-email: [email protected]

    admin-c-title: Herr
    admin-c-firstname: Hans-Georg
    admin-c-lastname: Kolpak
    admin-c-organization: kolpak-online
    admin-c-street: Am Doerrenbach 22
    admin-c-pcode: 54411
    admin-c-city: Hermeskeil
    admin-c-ccode: DE
    admin-c-phone: +49 6503 8 00 781
    admin-c-fax: +49 6503 8 00 782
    admin-c-email: [email protected]

  • Xander
    Xander

    Since issues of violence against women and children and porn are closely related at the very least in peoples' minds

    1) They AREN'T, in fact, related at all

    2) The Silentlambs site is, very clearly, quite opposed to child abuse in no uncertain terms. How could someone, viewing it's contents, ever even wonder about its motives?

    Indeed, how could the average web user (who just clicks on a link from Yahoo or somesuch) even find OUT about the 'other sites' he runs? Easy: they can't. The only way is if people like those posting on this thread try and make a scandal out of someone hosting porn sites and a child abuse prevention site (which are two completely unrelated things).

    I have to ask what kind of idiocy is going on in this thread? No one is going to know that he hosts porn sites unless they have the technical knowledge and curiosity to find out, and of those who do, most are quite clearly aware of the distinction between porn and child molestation.

    You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

  • deddaisy
    deddaisy
    "This pornlinks are those from Bowen's new friend Hans Georg Kolpak!"----------Bernd

    Bernd,

    It seems odd that someone who's only concern is for Silentlambs and Mr. Bowen would make this comment. Also, have you contacted Mr. Bowen and revealed your concern regarding his business to him? If not, perhaps you should. The manner in which you are making your concern known seriously makes one question your intent.

    Regards

  • Xander
    Xander

    Oh, good grief people.

    Here is the site:

    http://www.silentlams.de/

    OH NO! PORN BANNERS EVERYWHER....oh, wait, no there isn't. No reference to a porn site ANYWHERE. No links, NOTHING.

    Okay, so at the bottom of the page is a link to "Site donated by:" and it goes here:

    http://marketwizz.com/

    OH NO! PORN BANNERS EVE.....oh, wait, no there isn't. Again, no reference to a porn site ANYWHERE. No links, NOTHING.

    What's the problem here, people? Someone objects 'on principle' to a person hosting SL and porn sites?

    For the love of the gods people, get with the program. It's the friggin 21st century, the two aren't related. If you object on principle and nothing else - YOU NEED TO LOOK AT YOUR PRINCIPLES - THAT's where the only problem is!

  • deddaisy
    deddaisy
    get with the program------xander

    I agree........ I believe Bernd has a concern but

    if BERND's concern was with the welfare of Silentlambs, he would contact Silentlambs. He would not come on a public forum and post links to porn sites.......The problem is that Bernd(?) is not slick enough so his real concern, and therefore his intent, is obvious.

    care for a valium WTS?

    Edited by - deddaisy on 22 July 2002 15:52:59

    Edited by - deddaisy on 23 July 2002 1:59:37

    Edited by - deddaisy on 23 July 2002 2:4:12

  • silentlambs
    silentlambs

    I had this rumor checked by a reliable source in Germany. The message was as follows:

    Hello Bill,

    apparently, there are people who want to prevent your website from appearing in a German version. The accusations against Hans-Georg Kolpak are absurd to say the least. I met him personally at a meeting and have had infrequent eMail contacts with him since.

    I can assure you that Hans-Georg is neither a pedophile nor a "porno dealer" as some other eMail put it.

    Some time ago, Hans-Georg used a provider for his business website who automatically added pop-up windows as soon as the website was opened. These included windows pointing to pornographic websites. Hans-Georg changed the provider a long time ago, but this "story" has been used against him since then.

    ----------------------------------------------------------

    It appears Jehovah's Witnesses will stop at nothing to discredit those who are willing to protect children. As their spokesmen lie to protect pedopliles so do the rank and file. Do not believe everything you hear, always check the source first.

    silentlambs

  • GermanXJW
    GermanXJW

    Xander, from what you write I can see that you don't understand what the situation is in Germany. (How could you.)

    To make this point clear: "Bernd" is a troll who pesters any JW related board.

    Kolpak too also joins any the JW board only that he uses them to promote his WebSites. He hardly contributes to a thread without linking to any of his pages, and they are all linked.

    He promised not to link to any of his sites on silentlambs but he did in as the moderator of the board (that nobody asked for). He put his name prominently on the Homepage (he has erased his name after having been criticized on Infolink). Bill Bowen was not mentioned once (which is not really necessary for silentlambs, but he mentioned himself several times).

    The rest of silentlambs is still a mirror of the English Site and that is why you find http://marketwizz.com. This matter should be settled BEFORE Kolpak is officially Webmaster of silentlambs.de.

    Indeed, how could the average web user (who just clicks on a link from Yahoo or somesuch) even find OUT about the 'other sites' he runs? Easy: they can't. The only way is if people like those posting on this thread try and make a scandal out of someone hosting porn sites and a child abuse prevention site (which are two completely unrelated things).

    Well, how does the average publisher/householder find out about pedophiles among JW? The only way is there are people like Bill Bowen. Thank God.

  • GermanXJW
    GermanXJW

    Bill, I know that you don't have any chance but to check with a reliable source.

    I know that Stephan E. Wolf does not see any problem with Kolpak hosting silentlambs.de

    I don't understand that point of view but I respect your decision. I also mention that some other serious Infolink-participant (like Manfred Gebhard, Webmaster at http://www.manfred-gebhard.de and Delef Zwarg , Webmaster of http://www.gimpelfang.de share my view.

    I also think that owning domains like big-breast.de etc has nothing to to with pop-ups of a provider.

    But, Bill, you are the one to decide in this matter.

    I just wanted to save silentlambs from harm.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Hey Bill,I knew you`d be by to clear this up.There seems to be a never ending parade of trolls,liars and clowns,trying to de-rail the work of Bill Bowen of "SILENT LAMBS".One of the few trying to make a difference for victims of abuse.You have an army of supporters and we get real pissed when someone trys to mess with you...OUTLAW

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