I've watched this thread with some mirth - at the sheer, brazen impudenceof the spiritually-repugnant "F iend Class"! How well he plays it! He is as almost as skilled as his disgusting religious Mother!
Let's take F iend at face value. I'll expound his views:
* Friend believes that the Society is often wicked, corrupt, selfish and deceitful, no more God's organization than any of a myriad others, which is contrary to the Watchtower's most central claim.
* Friend certainly appears to disbelieve or mistrust a great deal of what the Watchtower says.
* Friend implies he is unconcerned with any sanctions against him that might apply were he to cease to be a JW.
* Friend disregards or fails to logically follow on to the fact that the Society is autocratic, and its bosses do not reform themselves unless compelled to so do by external events.
* However, and notwithstanding all this, Friend chooses NOT to leave it, but instead continues serving the Watchtower, being counted among its numbers and performing its works, thereby serving to increase the number of people trapped inside it and enlarging the misery pool.
So, doesn't your head spin? The man "Friend" is therefore clearly either STARK, RAVING MAD, or a LIAR. Or both.
Remember, the simplest explanations are often the right ones - and he can't quite explain in a way that makes one say "Aha! I understand why a person of Friend's insight still stays within when not compelled to by shunning considerations".. Think why he can't make the explanation - the simplest answer is that it is impossible for him to do so. Which suggests...
It is LIARS like the Watchtower who need reams and reams of proof to justify themselves, to show that words actually mean something different from what they do to everyone else, how clever they are and how foolish is the knowledge of the world, etc. Now, I see F iend using exactly these techniques... Wonder why? LOL!
And his motives have already been discussed in the thread "PEDOPHILES are to WTS as flies are to honey?" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=3035&site=3
Of course I understand his discomfort in dealing with them there, where one can more readily compare his apologia with his offensive ejaculations of spiritual-pornography, in the hyperbole of the organization whose work he performs. AlanF and I refuted him in that thread, in which he stopped responding claiming to have reached an impasse with AlanF. Be prepared to spend some time reading that thread, and see how he has been systematically dismembered there. Which is why he flees to more fruitful recruiting grounds here.
Let me use an analogy. In the Second World War, European theater, the Allies did not fight just the Nazis. They fought the whole German Empire. One was at war with the whole lot of them, no matter how "nice" individual soldiers might be - one had to be. Here, the war is with the whole Watchtower Organization and body of Jehovah's Witnesses - for they are the ones going door-to-door, spreading in their army-like way this foul disease that masquerades as a religion.
Personally, I think he really is the most despicable person, the view enunciated by several of the long-timers on h2O, and by silentlambs too. Perhaps F iend's mission is to show by example that many people are unwisely trusting and can be misled and confused - and so he tries to deceive, whilst so doing expounding his barrack-room law and schoolboy moral code! While I cannot say for certain what is his agenda - mental instability can account for much - I know that hunting out the gullible is something the Watchtower does too. Well, F iend flies like a duck, quacks like a duck, behaves like a duck - and claims to be a nominal duck. He can't then complain that I treat him as one, then, bearing in mind that the open season has started? LOL!
Friend's claims that I made a mistake are entirely predicated upon his choice (idiotic or larcenous, I cannot tell) of meaning attributed to the word "policy" as applying to the Watchtower. He deems there to be no ambiguity in the meaning of such a term as applied to a deceitful and duplicitous organization! Well, he can "deem away" till he's blue in the face. We know it does not. I deliberately chose to interpret the word "policy" differently from the way he did - as being that body of unambiguous rules from which it is wholly impossible for the Watchtower to distance itself without admitting it is doing so.
The proven misconduct of this Spiritual-Criminal is there for all to see, and its effect is to dampen down enthusiasm AGAINST the Watchtower - "perhaps they have a point, perhaps they were right after all". So:
From the nature of the fruit, judge the PURPOSE and AGENDA of the tree
Just so that you do not get confused, friends, in the same way that the Watchtower tried to confuse you. I quoted Shakespeare in the other thread. Could have chosen some Greek too - the bad guys there so often come in the guise of "we are here to help you!". Perhaps he has read Classics somewhere (no, Xandit, not Classic Comics).
[insanity mode]
No, no, I am all wrong. F iend is only trying to HELP US!
[/insanity mode]
Yeah, sure. Woo-hoo, just saw a flying pig then. It was a theocratic one, to boot.
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Focus
(FOCUS Class)
Edited by - Focus on 13 March 2001 16:18:31