Some choice memories of my parents

by kat7302 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • Number 6
    Number 6

    Ah indeed, the fond words of loving parents to sooth the troubled brow. The gentlest touch at the right moment to ease the pain.

    NOT!!!

    Kat, with respect why do you put up with this crap. My parents many years ago now just after I left the Borg tried it on with all these kind of sayings. My response?

    "If you talk to me in that manner ever again, I will walk out of that door (in their house) and you will never see me or your Grandchildren again. If you make the mistake of daring to speak to me in that manner in my own house, your feet will not touch the door on the way out and also you will never see me or your Grandchildren again. This is not a negotiable point! What's your reply?"

    They had enough common sense to realise they didn't want to lose contact with me or their grandchildren and the compromise was reached where they just don't refer to the Watchtower even in the most oblique manner. Which suits me fine.

    I have made it my lifes ambition to drag my parents out of the Borg even if they realise on the day of their death that they have wasted their entire life in it. To have them turn to me and say 'sorry' would be enough.

    But Kat, if your parents are as bad as you describe I would walk away and never look back.

    Sometimes you gotta bury family before they are dead.

    Sorry to be so blunt

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  • kat7302
    kat7302

    I appreciate your comments there but I dont think I could ever be like that even if I wanted to be.

    I cant hold it against my parents that I was raised a JW becuase they thought they were doing the right thing and still do. My children love thier nan/grandad so to use my children against my parents would not only be cruel to my parents but cruel to my children too. Im not gonna let history repeat itself on that score.

    I think that a lot of people post things on here because its just on their mind, not necassarily because they are looking for a solution, in most cases...there isnt one. Its just nice to get things off your chest sometimes.

  • Number 6
    Number 6

    Hey Kat,

    I presume your last comments were directed at me so I suppose I better clarify what I meant.

    My parents (along with many many other JW's) see the world in very clear shades of black and white. If there isnt a Watchtower or publication to cover a matter they get very nervous.

    My very desicive wording simply told them in no uncertain terms that I no longer bought into their way of thinking. That just because they saw something in a certain way didn't mean I had to. My entire upbringing under them was very much a long list of what 'I wasn't allowed to do' because 'it said so in the Watchtower'.

    I find Jehovah's Witnesses generally a very arrogant group of people. When they are dealing with families i.e sons and daughters particularly they take liberties in their mode of conduct that would otherwise be socially unacceptable. In my parents case they thought, at the time I was talking about, because I was in my early 20's and to a large extent still very naive about life they could talk to me in any manner they chose. They, to my mind, abused their parental position and still dictated and talked to me as if I was some 10 year old boy in their care. It was my right nay duty to stand up to them and tell them their mode of behaviour towards me was totally unacceptable. They wouldn't treat ordinary people in the street or fellow workers in that manner, so by what right had they to do it to me?

    My kids love their Gran and Grandad (unconditionally) very much and I would never be the one to initiate a situation where contact was cut. But I have to temper that view with the very real day to day conduct of Jehovah's Witnesses where the ties of family can be brutally cut at the whims of the latest Watchtower. Especially now with the Watchtower entrenching themselves into a 'them and us' postion and I personally forsee a time in the near future where the Watchtower will get JW families to treat even 'fallen away' ones (I was never DF'd of DA'd) in the same manner as they shun disfellowshipped and disassociated persons. I live in constant fear of having to explain to my children suddenly why their Grandparents have cut off all contact.

    My view on the matter is very simple. As long as they treat my family and I with the respect we deserve and no worse than any other person then that's fine. This simply entails them not bringing up religion in any shape size or form.

    As an aside though, my brother went nuclear on the matter. He reverse shunned them. As a result of the upbringing he and I received he finally flipped (for reason to long to go into here) and told them "As long as you remain Jehovah's Witnesses I want nothing more to do with you. Come back to me when you have abandoned your religion!"

    Whilst I personally think this is going too far I understand and to a large extent have a great deal of sympathy for him. Also when my mother told me about it in tears one day, I rather waspishly said: "Well at least now you know what those poor sods you disfellowship go through."

    I'm sorry Kat but parents bear a great deal of responsibility for bringing up kids as JW's (it is totally different from coming into 'the truth' as a grown adult) and if it brings them repercussions when the children grow to adults then they must bear the blame for the rusults of their own parenting.

    Hope that clears up what I'm talking about.

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  • kat7302
    kat7302

    I take your point on this and I wasnt really criticising your advise. Its just easier said than done really. No matter how many issues I have with my parents on various subjects (and I have many!) I dont think I could ever get to that point of cutting them off or shunning..maybe thats because they promote that course of action with Disfellowshipping....its the old, two wrongs dont make a right thing and I dont want to imtate any JW action.

    I understand what you're saying though and I have thought before about saying that unless they leave I dont want contact....I dont think this would change my mum but my dad maybe and Im not sure that I could allow him to leave because Ive forced him. I would love them to leave and be normal parents but I cant be responsible for that

    I hope your situation is improving..hang in there

  • zenpunk
    zenpunk

    My heart goes out to you as well..

    My favourite from my mom: "Well, since you're gonna die at Armaggeddon, you better figure out how to be happy in this life".

  • kat7302
    kat7302

    ill never forget the last thing my parents said to me...they said

    "get out of my way"

    You cant buy memories like that!

    Cheers for the comments guys!

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