REAL REASON JW ELDERS WON'T REPORT

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Amazing

REAL REASON WHY ELDERS WONT REPORT
What has been said up to now about the JW Elders taking direction from the Governing Body to not be the worlds police and also protecting the image of the organization is all true, but only part of the root cause of the problem ... until the root cause is cured, child molesters and other criminals among Jehovah's Witnesses will go unreported ... and this will lead to their demise as an organization.
The root cause of the problem is this: JWs, and no less the Elders, believe that they are:
Jehovah's Organization
Jehovah's Covenant People
Jehovah's Servants
Jehovah's Congregation
Jehovah's Nation
Jehovah's Channel of Communication
Jehovah's Source of Truth
Jehovah's Agency
And, they have Jehovah's Spirit, Direction, Guidance, Approval, Blessing, Love, and ... THE ONLY CURE FOR ALL THE ILLS OF ALL HUMANKIND !!!
Just where else could a JW Pedophile ever get True Help, Jehovah's Spirit, and have any hope of being CURED? ... and what will truly help a JW Pedophile in these last days, more than anything the WORLD under Satans Direction could do? When I tried to first report a JW pedophile, this is what I was told, that by reporting it would not help the JW Pedophile, but isolate him from the only source of real help ... and then added that we are not the world's police, etc. and the CO said not to report.
The All-Important Cure for JW Pedophiles to get Jehovahs Spirit is to:
Attend Meetings, Assemblies, and Conventions regularly
Study the publications of the FDS (GB)
Associate with Jehovah's People
Prepare for the Meetings, especially the Watchtower Study
Comment at Meetings
Share in Preaching the Good News of Jehovah's Kingdom
Pray to Jehovah the True God for His Spirit and Help
If the Society, through its Elders were to really take the time and energy to report JW Pedophiles to the Worldly Authorities, this would be a MOST SERIOUS ADMISSION ... that is:
It would be an admission that Jehovah and His organization and Jehovah's Spirit were all inadequate
to really help a JW Pedophile. And, while having an effect on their IMAGE ... It would have a FAR GREATER AFFECT ON THIER CORE BELIEFS ABOUT THEIR ROLE IN HUMAN AFFAIRS AND THEIR STANDING EBFORE THEIR GOD JEHOVAH ... it would also be an Admission that in order to get real help, the WORLD, whom they view as directly under Satan's control is BETTER EQUIPPED to deal with Pedophiles, and has a better understanding of the problem. When a person or their group CORE BELIEFS are seriously attacked, they tend to circle the wagons of denial and fight rather then admit they are in error and accept defeat.
This is the reason that the WTS, its GB, and Elders, and JW members cannot report JW Pedophiles to the authorities, because the ultimate risk to their beliefs is at stake... and with that may also be the fear of civil lawsuits, which if successful, could bring financial ruin to Jehovah's Organization. While the leadership may be more concerned with the money, however, the average JW and local Elders would see this as Jehovah's punishment and maybe withdrawal of his support for their Organization, or possibly they would go deeper into denial and see this as Satan persecuting them.
Either way, they lose ... and the only thing that will get them out of this rut will be to either wise up and see the Organization and its core beliefs as the problem, or for the Organization to lead them to a better, more moderate place in their spiritual journey.

Edited by - Amazing on 24 July 2002 14:59:52
Fredhall

Amazing,

I hope what the elders report is the truth. Because Hawkaw doesn't want it that way.
patio34

Hi Amazing,
Very good points and a good side of the argument. However, what occurs to me is that if you were to liken, as many posters have, the crime of pedophilia to murder, there would be a different policy taken.
It seems to me the problem is recognizing child molestation for the crime it is and respond accordingly. Apparently, the WTBS does not consider pedophilia a serious-enough crime and doesn't hightail it to the authorities as they would with a murderer.
Pat
Dutchie

Hi Amazing,
A very good, well thought out post. Thank you for sharing with us.
However, for your premise to be true you would have to begin by assuming that the Governing Body, the entity for which comes all rules and regulations passed on to the elders at their individual congregations, are of high moral character, that they are truly concerned with the welfare of the publishers and that they honestly believed that there were the Faithful and Discreeet Slave mentioned in the Bible. Their desire to help all brothers and to keep the congregation clean would be above reproach and they would be recognized by all as the spiritual people they claim to be.
Amazing, this is just not so. These men are only interested in maintaining their corporate appearance. They know that substantial contributions do not come to organizations that are identified as corrupt. They talk the talk, but their help goes only so far as making sure that each member of their organization is fit and able to peddle their literature and make recruits.
If they were not so interested in their public image, then why hire public relations people to work for them in many cities around the world, to make sure that newspapers report positively about their actions, to make sure that the public equates the name of Jehovah's Witnesses with fine, clean, spiritual people.
Of course, there be some men at the top who are fine men and who really believe their role is identified in the scriptures, but by far the majority of them are corrupt and so the things they do and the rules they make are intended to further that corruption. It is just too bad that the poor rank and file, fine men and women who want to serve Jehovah, are doing nothing less than worshiping a publishing company.
Amazing

Hi Pat: JW Elders have been told via a BOE letter to not report murderers for the same exact reasons they do not report child molesters. Over the years I have known several JWs who were guilty of murder or robbery, and they were never reported to the authorities. If caught, the only thing the Elders would do was to show up at the jailhouse, and inform the accussed JW that they were DF'd ... no hearing, no waiting on the world to convict, just automatic DF.
If a JW can keep from getting caught, they will not be reported for any crime they commit, even against the congregation. We had an Elder who stole money from our congregation accounts, and he was caught by the Elders and the Society. Al that happened was that he had to make payment arrangements ... and was removed as an Elder ... end of story ..."just go out in Service, Pray, attend meetings and Jehovah's Spirit will heal you" ... is what he was told.
PS: Bill Bowen posted a copy of the BOE letter where the Society said to not report JW murderers.
hawkaw

Thanks
Interesting post.
hawk
Sam Beli

Amazing,
They have no problem putting a teenager, guilty of sexual indiscretion, out on the street (in Satans world). So, you are saying that they have more compassion for a pedophile (usually/often a middle aged male criminal) who has much more experience in life (and therefore is more accountable) than they have for a tender aged teen who has almost no experience with lifes issues?!
Amazing

Hi Dutchie: My post was not about the GB and those directly working for them at their HQ in NY. I am referring to the average JW Elders who believes the religion, and who would never report wrong doing to the authorities ... only in very rare cases or by accident does that ever happen ... and the reason they do not report are those I mentioned and because the GB tells them not to ... see the BOE letter that Bill Bowen posted telling them not to report even murderers. However, regarding the men at the very top of the JW food chain ... I agree that the premise falls apart because the GB do not believe their own religion.
Dutchie

Sorry, Amazing, I'm on the web and writing a bill of particulars at the same time. As you can see, I am not one of those people who can do two things at the same time!
Please for give me. I'll try to read more carefully next time.
Sometimes, I am such a doofus!
patio34

Dear Amazing,
You said:
Hi Pat: JW Elders have been told via a BOE letter to not report murderers for the same exact reasons they do not report child molesters. Over the years I have known several JWs who were guilty of murder or robbery, and they were never reported to the authorities. If caught, the only thing the Elders would do was to show up at the jailhouse, and inform the accussed JW that they were DF'd ... no hearing, no waiting on the world to convict, just automatic DF.
I am appalled and amazed myself that that's true. I guess there IS no end to their duplicity.
Dear Sam Beli,
That is such an excellent comparison you made.
They have no problem putting a teenager, guilty of sexual indiscretion, out on the street (in Satans world). So, you are saying that they have more compassion for a pedophile (usually/often a middle aged male criminal) who has much more experience in life (and therefore is more accountable) than they have for a tender aged teen who has almost no experience with lifes issues?!
Thanks. I feel better informed now. Plus, more understanding of the rottenness of the WTBS. If it weren't for grandkids, I'd tell the local body of elders where to go.
Pat

REAL REASON JW ELDERS WON'T REPORT

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